I think life is extremely unfair when one of my very overweight friends has a hbalc of 39. She eats what she wants and has a perfect bp, although her cholesterol is high.
i say that smacks of she deserves it more me.
then re read your post. its bad enough being fat then folks come on and think we deserve to be ill. no one deserves it no one should have it but we do. a lot of research is showing that obesity is often secondary to insulin residence. hence why a skinny person can eat the same amount of food asa obese person but the obese one gains the skinny does not. as some one said im probably in a bad mood today but unless youve been on the end of abuse for being fat you simply dont get it.That is a horribly negative view.
I can't help resenting that other people can run when my legs - especially my knees - just aren't up to it.
I resent the fact that others can eat whatever they want, but I have to be eternally vigilant to maintain my health.
In no way does that mean that I am wishing ill health on others!
then re read your post. its bad enough being fat then folks come on and think we deserve to be ill. no one deserves it no one should have it but we do. a lot of research is showing that obesity is often secondary to insulin residence. hence why a skinny person can eat the same amount of food asa obese person but the obese one gains the skinny does not. as some one said im probably in a bad mood today but unless youve been on the end of abuse for being fat you simply dont get it.
My interest in this subject came from attending an xpert course where the presenter has banged on about t2d being a lifestyle disease and really just down to the choice of the individual. However, it seems to upset some posters on here so I will not bother with this anymore. It is very difficult sometimes to discuss things without upsetting someone.
I think the presenter has blinkers on. We don't. You don't either, I know that. Please don't take people's annoyance be taken on you. No. They are annoyed at your presenter.My interest in this subject came from attending an xpert course where the presenter has banged on about t2d being a lifestyle disease and really just down to the choice of the individual. However, it seems to upset some posters on here so I will not bother with this anymore. It is very difficult sometimes to discuss things without upsetting someone.
I was lucky and still am that metformin is enough to support my pcos symptoms enough for me to get by.You'd think medical profession would be better about correlation doesn't equal causation. For women 15-20% are estimated to have PCOS, of that 50-70%(!!!!) are estimated to have insulin resistance... its the leading comorbidity for T2D.
My experience is that PCOS is very rarely tackled in a substantive way, therefore T2D is almost inevitable as it is so difficult to handle IR without the root cause also being taken care of.
I know my doctors suspect 1.5 because I have a 'healthy lifestyle' without realising that the weight follows the disease, not the other way round.
Which proves we know our own bodies better than anyone!All my life I have had people telling me I was overweight - even when I had a 24 inch waist and was working as a roadie, and could carry a speaker cabinet in each hand or a drunken guitarist over my shoulders - or - not at the same time. There are limits.
I was threatened with being put in hospital for eating low carb during pregnancy, and I caved in and was really ill with pre-eclampsia. I was still accused of eating wrongly even though I'd had an absolutely ideal pregnancy up to that point and my first child was a poster baby. When I was put on various diets I was always ill in a few weeks - sometimes in a few days - but the HCPs simply refused to believe that it was their healthy low fat high carb low calorie diet making me feel so dire.
On a cholesterol reducing diet just before diagnosis I reached 264lb - but I was only tested for diabetes by accident - I should have had a thyroid test. As soon as I stopped the cereals and wholemeal bread I felt as though I was surfacing from a deep dive.
I can see why those figures are proven. Look at bariatric surgery, weight loss = many no longer prediabetic and some type2s in reversal too.This article from The Harvard Gazette (the official news website for Harvard University) when talking about the US population says:-
"Studies have shown that becoming overweight is a major risk factor in developing type 2 diabetes. Today, roughly 30 percent of overweight people have the disease, and 85 percent of diabetics are overweight."
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/03/the-big-setup/
and
"... a body mass index of under 25 — reduces the risk of diabetes by 90 percent."
These stats include both overweight and obese - presumably, if you limited it to obese only, the percentage with diabetes would be higher.
your question comes across as thinking fat folks deserve to be sick. sorry no one deserves diabetes. in fact your obese friend may have a better diet than you. so why do you deserve diabetes.
The presenter may be correct in raising lifestyle, but we all take it the wrong way. The media have used the terms of lifestyle and obesity as the reason people become T2. It plays to the audience (particularly the daily wail) that this is the fault of the individual in committing at least 2 of the 7 deadly sins, and therefore no taxpayer pounds should be spent on them.where the presenter has banged on about t2d being a lifestyle disease and really just down to the choice of the individual.
I'm going to go from experience rather than statistics.I think life is extremely unfair when one of my very overweight friends has a hbalc of 39. She eats what she wants and has a perfect bp, although her cholesterol is high.
Does anyone know what percentage of obese people will never develop t2d? I know its the majority but I can't find any study saying this. I have started an xpert course and she is banging on about lifestyle (and low carb!!)but seems to say its lifestyle generated. I am aware of the genetic disposition although she did not mention it at all.
So instead of looking at why we get t2d and I would like to know what percentage of obese people do not develop t2d.
Thanks all.
Pcos is insulin resistance @JohnEGreen . Hi probability for your daughter. If she get gestational diabetes in pregnancy, a dead cert. Get her low carbing, now?I have a friend who you could classify as obese he is T2 insulin dependent. My daughter could also be classed as obese she is not diabetic but has recently been diagnosed with PCOS so probably has a lot of insulin circulating about and in all probability has had that for some time.
So I guess from that you could say it's 50/50 would not bet on it though.
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