1. Get the Diabetes Forum App for your phone - available on iOS and Android.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Guest, we'd love to know what you think about the forum! Take the Diabetes Forum Survey 2020 »
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Diabetes Forum should not be used in an emergency and does not replace your healthcare professional relationship. Posts can be seen by the public.
    Dismiss Notice
  4. Guest, stay home, stay safe, save the NHS. Stay up to date with information about keeping yourself and people around you safe here and GOV.UK: Coronavirus (COVID-19). Think you have symptoms? NHS 111 service is available here.
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Find support, ask questions and share your experiences. Join the community »

How much do you take?

Discussion in 'Type 1 Diabetes' started by kjw123, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. fontana74

    fontana74 · Newbie

    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    21
    I take 32 units of Lantus every night before bed & I take on average 12-14 units of humalog depending on the size of meal thru the day.
     
  2. kjw123

    kjw123 · Active Member

    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    21
    Well Jonty.........
    I dial up 72 on the pen that is what I was always led to believe (by my HCP) to be units (i.e 72) units but I guess you can call it what you like, it depends on how picky you want to be.

     
  3. JontyW

    JontyW Type 1 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Hi kjw123,

    With all due respect, I am not trying to be picky, but I think it is really important that information regarding insulin doses, that are posted on this forum, are quite clear and correct so other users don't get confused.

    I don't understand what you are saying here .. "I dial up 72 on the pen that is what I was always led to believe (by my HCP) as a unit but I guess you can call it what you like,". Are you saying 72 on the pen is ONE UNIT or 72 units.. please state exactly what you mean by this statement.

    Please answer my original question .. "why you think "1 unit of insulin is actually 3 units on the pen"? Who told you this .. surely not your HCP?

    Thanks

    Jonty
     
  4. AMBrennan

    AMBrennan · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    826
    Likes Received:
    23
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Insulin unit has an official definition much like meter, second, etc:

    Insulin pens and syringes are labelled with IU, and this is why you should not use other syringes for insulin as that can easily result in an overdose. Unless you are injecting higher concentration insulin (e.g. 500u/ml for those with extreme insulin resistance) with a syringe, or using a non-standard concentration (Bernstein... again), you can and have to take the units on the pen at face value.
     
  5. chhabra

    chhabra · Member

    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    23
    75 units inslutard
    46 humolog
    10 mg bystander am
    46 humolog pm
    75 inslutard
    46 humolog
    10 byetta evening
    20 humolog in between when high readings
    Was on 125 units twice a day 3 months ago of lantus till dr changed it to inslutard
     
  6. chhabra

    chhabra · Member

    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    23
    Ps this was all private medical care consultants all for money now on NHs lawyers suing them
     
  7. smidge

    smidge LADA · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,755
    Likes Received:
    1,984
    Trophy Points:
    178
    8 units Levemir - 5 morning, 3 evening
    Apidra - varies depending on the carb/protein I eat with each meal, but generally around 8 units a day.

    Smidge
     
  8. JontyW

    JontyW Type 1 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    48
    So what is your carb ratio for each meal?

    Thanks

    Jonty
     
  9. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

    Messages:
    18,072
    Likes Received:
    27,190
    Trophy Points:
    298
    I take 12 units of levemir before bed( never split the levemir) and NovoRapid during the day, 3 times, which works out, on average, about 12/14 units per day. Best wishes RRB
     
  10. smidge

    smidge LADA · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,755
    Likes Received:
    1,984
    Trophy Points:
    178
    Hey Jonty

    Well, that's not as black and white as you might think, because I low carb. In terms of carb, it's about 1:9, but I do have to add the odd unit or two for protein along the way if I have a very low-carb or no carb meal. So bacon and eggs for example I'd jab 1.5 units even though there's only about 1g carb in that. Overall, I eat about 50g carb a day, so you can see that at 1:9, I should only need about 5.5 units Apidra, but I actually have to take around 8 on average to cover the non-carb elements. Hope that makes sense!

    Smidge
     
  11. iHs

    iHs · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,602
    Likes Received:
    2,320
    Trophy Points:
    158
    Hi

    Just being a bit curious but do you drink cups of tea and coffee during the day and if so, do you have milk in them or what?
     
  12. kjw123

    kjw123 · Active Member

    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    21
    it seems there is a confusion going on here Jonty, I don't believe it was me that said "1 unit of insulin is actually 3 units on the pen"?

    I simply said that when I dialed up 72 on the pen I was led to believe that that amounted to 72 units.

    Just a little confusion going on here I think.

     
  13. kjw123

    kjw123 · Active Member

    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    21
    Please refer to my original posting as there was a typo error in the later posting due to my eyesight not being what it used to be...Something to do with Retinopathy and blurred vision I believe.

     
  14. JontyW

    JontyW Type 1 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Hi dcoppard,

    Please could you clear up the confusion that this statement has caused ... "It was only a short while ago I realised that 1 unit of insulin is actually 3 units on the pen."

    Who told you this ... surely not your HCP?

    Jonty
     
  15. JontyW

    JontyW Type 1 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Hi kjw123,

    You are quite right, it was not you that posted that statement .. so many apologies! That's the problem with a long thread and multiple quotes get added.

    Anyway I have asked "dcoppard" to clarify where that statement came from.

    Jonty
     
  16. kjw123

    kjw123 · Active Member

    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    21
    One thing I have found confusing is the different approach's to diabetes care in as much as the diiferent insulin types otheres use and whether they carb count or not .....I personally have never carb counted or adjusted my insulin to the ammount of carb intake. I have simply found a background level of Lantus that gives me a relativly stable BM during the day and just use Nova-Rapid to take care of my BM after I have eaten and funny enough my hbA1c has been around the 6 point mark for sometime now.

     
  17. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

    Messages:
    18,072
    Likes Received:
    27,190
    Trophy Points:
    298
    You are obviuosly doing well and getting it right, 6 is good :thumbup: We are ALL so different in our diabetes needs, medication and management.

    Best wishes RRB
     
  18. Spirit of Eden

    Spirit of Eden · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    50
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    26
    For me (I weigh 68kg) and eat about 150g carbs a day

    16u Humulin I (Basal) at bedtime
    14 -18u of Humalog (Bolus) split between 3-4 meals over the course of the day

    :thumbup: Interesting topic. I'm always badgering my HCP's to tell me where i am "in the scheme" of things. In other words how much insulin would i need if the pancreas produced zero insulin. I'll have to ask her next time, but I seem to remember she said for me it would be in the 40's units a day. My total daily dose is about 30u. I guess I am therefore 3 parts injected and 1 part self produced insulin. A higher dosage would be to due to insulin resistance
     
  19. smidge

    smidge LADA · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,755
    Likes Received:
    1,984
    Trophy Points:
    178
    Hey iHs!

    I don't really drink coffee (although I have the occasional Soy Latte). I drink mostly Earl Grey tea without milk while at work, but at home I drink mainly tea with Lactofree milk. The Lactofree milk has about half the carbs of ordinary milk and I can get away with a small drop in a cup of tea. I find ordinary milk spikes me badly - I am very sensitive to carb unfortunately, and liquid carbs are the worst for me - I can actually use a small drop of milk to correct minor hypos. (I'm not recommending that BTW, just saying what effect milk has on me!). The trouble is, 6g of carb could take my BG up by 3 mmol, and as milk has about 5.5g carb per 100ml, it wouldn't take many cups of tea to raise my BG significantly, and I certainly can't face jabbing for cups of tea!

    Smidge
     
  20. willb

    willb Type 2 · Newbie

    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    41
    I take 150units of solarstar each night and 55units of Novorapid flexpen with each meal (3 times a day). I hope this helps.
     
  • Meet the Community

    Find support, connect with others, ask questions and share your experiences with people with diabetes, their carers and family.

    Did you know: 7 out of 10 people improve their understanding of diabetes within 6 months of being a Diabetes Forum member. Get the Diabetes Forum App and stay connected on iOS and Android

    Grab the app!
  • Tweet with us

  • Like us on Facebook