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How to gain weight without spiking glucose

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You're right of course I need to add more protein and fat but that's what is causing my high levels.
From memory (which may be mistaken since I binged on similar videos), in one video Peter Attia said that getting the amount of Protein right was the hardest part for him as an athlete. I think that too high a protein intake will take you out of Ketosis and thus boost your BG. But I would be very surprised if any higher amount of fat did anything to raise your BG!
 
You're right of course I need to add more protein and fat but that's what is causing my high levels.

Fats will NOT raise your blood sugar levels. In fact they help keep levels lower. Protein will only increase levels in the absence or very near absence of carbs. It is carbs that raise levels. Any additional protein you add is most likely burnt off in your running.

There is no harm in experimenting and see what happens. I don't run or do strenuous exercise at all, but I did have to stop losing weight on low carb as I was becoming too thin. I did it by increasing fats including fats contained in protein sources. I trebled the number of eggs I was eating, increased the amount of oily fish, began eating cheese (which I had not been eating) and other similar things. It took a while, tweaking amounts as I went along, and then succeeded and have maintained my ideal weight since 2014 on this diet.
 
Carbs are what causes high levels. Not fats. Proteins may have some effect but nothing like carbs

What do you typically eat? Maybe we can make suggestions of how to tweak it?
Lots of eggs, cream, cheese, meat & nuts (lower carb nuts). Small amounts of berries.

For my lunch today I had 2 chicken breasts and cheese.

For my dinner tonight I plan to have cauliflower fritters with cream cheese.

Just tested and I'm 7.5 after eating a small lunch over 3 hours ago. Gets me down sometimes
 
If the OP is actually losing muscle mass this is surely something he should address?

@gav_red are you sure you have lost muscle mass? Do you have one of those super dooper scales that can measure fat mass etc?

Quite possibly. I wouldn’t like to comment. Certainly one needs to get adequate protein, but for those who are very insulin resistant “too much” can be problematic. Many folk embarking on low carbohydrate eating tend to offset the carbs with extra protein rather than fat. Of course someone who is overweight may need to increase neither.
 
Lots of eggs, cream, cheese, meat & nuts (lower carb nuts). Small amounts of berries.

For my lunch today I had 2 chicken breasts and cheese.

For my dinner tonight I plan to have cauliflower fritters with cream cheese.

Just tested and I'm 7.5 after eating a small lunch over 3 hours ago. Gets me down sometimes
That looks pretty low carb to me but not enough food for me most days. I’m female but your size and a lot less active so should need less than you.

What’s your hb1ac looking like?
 
That looks pretty low carb to me but not enough food for me most days. I’m female but your size and a lot less active so should need less than you.

What’s your hb1ac looking like?
Haven't long been diagnosed. At diagnosis it was off the scale, 118. Come down to 48 about 3 months later but haven't had one since. Don't think it will be great though as when I test it is never perfect
 
Haven't long been diagnosed. At diagnosis it was off the scale, 118. Come down to 48 about 3 months later but haven't had one since. Don't think it will be great though as when I test it is never perfect
I think you do yourself a disservice. That’s a fantastic achievement. Nothing is perfect and no one! You’ve obviously been doing something (a lot!) right.
 
Quite possibly. I wouldn’t like to comment. Certainly one needs to get adequate protein, but for those who are very insulin resistant “too much” can be problematic. Many folk embarking on low carbohydrate eating tend to offset the carbs with extra protein rather than fat. Of course someone who is overweight may need to increase neither.
Aye but possible sarcopaenia (again if this is the case) needs to be addressed. As gng is demand driven and unlikely in the case of someone who is likely to be hyperinsulinaemic and hyperglycaemic (if we are talking of the those new to lowering carb intake) then inadequate protein is a problem. And of course if someone is actively trying to lose weight then this is unlikely to become a problem until one has reached goal weight and embarks on what I think is the hard part, weight maintenance.
 
Many folk embarking on low carbohydrate eating tend to offset the carbs with extra protein rather than fat.

That is actually quite difficult to do. Many common protein sources also include fat.
I agree with @Guzzler when she says gaining or maintaining ideal weight is the hardest part. It takes more experimenting, trial and error than losing the weight in the first place on a low carb diet.
Also @Gav-red is an athlete, which makes things more complicated.
 
I’m talking only with regard to maintaining good glucose stability. In those who are very insulin resistant, protein can be a problem. I realise that those for whom it isn’t a problem like to brush this off, but for those who have experienced it, it is very real. Demand driven or otherwise. That doesn’t really cut the mustard if your liver is shedding its burden willy nilly, aided by unused amino acids.

All I’m saying is that some extremely insulin resistant people should exercise caution if wanting to use extra protein in order to gain weight.
 
I’m talking only with regard to maintaining good glucose stability. In those who are very insulin resistant, protein can be a problem. I realise that those for whom it isn’t a problem like to brush this off, but for those who have experienced it, it is very real. Demand driven or otherwise. That doesn’t really cut the mustard if your liver is shedding its burden willy nilly, aided by unused amino acids.

All I’m saying is that some extremely insulin resistant people should exercise caution if wanting to use extra protein in order to gain weight.
Which is why I said the increase should be incremental and to test, test, test.
 
It’s a shame we can’t share, I’ve got plenty of spare weight I’d happily give you!:rolleyes:

[I think some idea of what you are eating would be good, and any meds you take.] sorry, cross posted with you.

What ‘fats’ and ‘proteins’ do you think are spiking you? Personally I could eat unlimited oil, avocado, butter, cheese etc and never raise my BG more than a hint, but if I do, I don’t lose weight.

So I find it strange those things are spiking you and you’re still losing weight.

It seems something isn’t right.
 
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