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How To Use My Daily Carb Allowance

Discussion in 'Low-carb Diet Forum' started by Primrosefairydust, Jun 25, 2018.

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  1. Primrosefairydust

    Primrosefairydust Type 2 · Member

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    Hi
    This is my first week. I decided to follow the advice and go for 130 grams of carbs a day. So around 40 grams a meal. For breakfast I have oatibix and skimmed milk (41 grams ) lunch is raw veg ham and cheese under 10 grams and dinner is salad as the weather is to warm for hot food at around 20gms of carbs making a grand total of 70 how fo I use the rest of my carbs. Also most days I'm eating under 1000 call a day. Last but not least the GP told me to cut down on the carbs but not to have high fat. That was all the help she gave!!
     
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    Goonergal Type 2 · Master
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    Hi @Primrosefairydust and welcome to the forum!

    I'm tagging @daisy1 for some introductory information. Have a good read and ask as many questions as you like.

    In the meantime, there is no need to eat 130g carbs a day - how low you go is up to you. The important thing is to understand the impact they have on your blood sugar levels, so if you haven't already, I'd consider getting a blood glucose monitor and testing immediately before and 2 hours after each meal. You should be aiming for a rise of no more than 2mmols at the 2 hour point. Any higher and the content of the meal needs to be investigated - carbs are probably the culprit - and adjusted. Portion size can also be a factor.

    Unless there's a specific medical reason why you can't eat fat, there's no need to be afraid of it - and without it and in the absence of carbs you're likely to feel hungry.

    I'm sure others will be along with some further advice shortly.
     
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    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    Hello and welcometo the forum, tagging @daisy1 for the info pack offered to all newcomers. If you cut the carbs and the fat it will leave you hungry. Choose healthy fats and raise the level gradually as you lower the carb amounts. Did your GP explain her reasons for not raising fat levels?

    It would help us to help you if you could give us more info, are you on any medications for Diabetes?

    Have a look at Dietdoctor.com website for great recipe ideas and take a wander around the forum and ask as many questions as you like.
     
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    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Legend

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    How many or how few carbs you eat is entirely a personal decision as we all have different tolerance levels. A blood glucose meter will help you discover your personal tolerances, and also which your danger foods are. Without a meter you are working blind. I would suggest you may find your breakfast needs changing. It is carb heavy, and carbs in the mornings are not a good idea. A meter would show you this at a glance. You may be lucky - some people can manage a small portion of porridge made with water. Many of us can't.

    Unless you have specific medical reasons for avoiding fats, then don't avoid them. Low fat products are highly processed and often contain lots of nasty ingredients to make them taste as good as the real thing. Carbs will raise blood sugar levels - a lot - but fats won't raise them at all, so no need to be afraid.

    We need energy from somewhere, and the lower the amount of carbs you eat, the more you need fat to replace that lost energy. Fats and proteins also keep you feeling fuller for longer, so don't be afraid of either. Full fat milk is better than skimmed or semi skimmed, and much nicer. (except in tea. I hate creamy tea, but that is just me!) You can have coffee with double cream, or strawberries and cream, raspberries with full fat yogurt, plenty of cheese, loads of eggs, real mayonnaise (but watch the carb content - Hellmanns is best unless you make your own), olive oil, avocados, real butter, nuts and seeds. However, unless you do keep your carbs low you may have to watch your weight. It is a balancing act, all trial and error.
     
  5. Phoenix55

    Phoenix55 Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the forum @Primrosefairydust (love your name tag) I would echo the advice given above regarding a bg monitor, if you do not have one you are trying to fight this disease blindfold, and it is a lifelong fight whatever anyone tells you. To go with the monitor I would suggest setting up a simple spreadsheet with a column for what you have eaten and the result after 2 hours on your monitor. Test each meal twice; the weather, amount of exercise you have taken, sleep, insipient illness etc. may all affect the reading but the meter will give you a good idea of what is happening. It may be a bit of a bind at first but it really helps and you will soon see patterns. Salads and cold soups are lovely at this time of the year, but give the cereals a miss at breakfast. Some prefer eggs in various forms, omelettes can be quickly prepared with some vege or meat, others go with a few berries and full fat yoghurt. Don't worry about the level of natural fats, olives and dairy are fine, they help you to feel full sooner and for longer. Carbs are the problem because they all, even the so called healthy brown ones, turn to sugar to be absorbed. Remember this is a change of lifestyle. Good luck.
     
  6. daisy1

    daisy1 Type 2 · Legend

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    @Primrosefairydust

    Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.

    BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

    Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

    A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

    On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

    The role of carbohydrate

    Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

    If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

    The bad news

    Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

    The good news

    People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

    Controlling your carbs

    The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

    There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
    • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
    • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
    Reduce your carbohydrates

    A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

    The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

    Choosing better carbohydrates

    The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

    Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

    Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

    Eating what works for you

    Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

    To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

    The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

    Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
    • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
    However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

    Access to blood glucose test strips

    The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
    • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
    • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

    Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

    You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

    Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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  7. Resurgam

    Resurgam Type 2 (in remission!) · Expert

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    Until you know that you can safely eat 130 gm of carbs a day I'd stick to the lower levels you are achieving now and test your blood glucose to check on which foods are not going to spike you - I could not eat breakfast cereal, for instance, as my insulin resistance is high in the mornings and I'd be high all day and probably into the next morning too. At the moment I am eating about 40 gm of carb a day, to try to lose more body fat - but I was eating a maximum of 50 gm a day to get normal numbers.
     
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