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Discussion in 'Type 2 Diabetes' started by memememeiii, May 11, 2018.

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    memememeiii Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    My update for today is that I am very nearly hitting 'normal' with glucose fasting tests overnight, and my other numbers are solidly in pre-diabetic. This is encouraging and interesting to me. Your support as a group has been immense and palpably helpful. Today I will speak to my psychotherapist about this and look at mindset issues, as well as the quest for stress reduction and by that I mean the capacity to go into 'disaster mode' thinking. Everything is baby steps, for sure. I am reminded to stay in the moment, and this will be my best advice, I'm convinced. Walk forward, until I can run. Continuing on and wishing you your own continued success and peace.
     
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    memememeiii Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Completely right re. all the adult learned stuff, namely on fear. It's a good reminder. I have long lived thinking about this, and living in the present moment mentally. I have also long endured probably too much and am looking at what changes must happen to sustain these ways of living (that are healthier). Continuing on.

    Your challenges are the resonating with mine (not the cancer, but the colon thing)...my gut issues kicked off for real last year, and I was so SHOCKED...I still am, though I'm on a treatment program for ulcerative colitis (which my mother has). A colleague told me she was faced with needing to heal her gut some years ago and knows a lot, so she'll be a resource. I look at these moments as weird blessings, for the facts will probably save my life or help me live longer.

    I have long lived with the fear that I'm going to die sick, disabled, poor, and on the streets. Long story I won't go into. I'm a professional with a career, but am rebuilding financially. Every bodily alarm that rings sends me into a spin, and you can see that through my vigilance here. What needs to really happen is I need to get to a healthy place physically and mentally, and I'm under no illusions about it. Stress has played an impact I can't deny on my health, so I suppose that's why meditation is as much of a discipline to grow (a practice) as the clean eating and exercise. That's a LOT of change in one go.

    Definitely baby steps.

    I wish you well with your journey and effort. Fear can motivate, but shouldn't have the reins.

     
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    donnellysdogs Type 1 · Master

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    Huge round of applause and the greatest respect to you.

    Thank you for update. Wishing you well and a better week... xx
     
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    memememeiii Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi all. Okay. Since May 11, I have lost 14 lbs. But yesterday I woke with the WORST throbbing joint in my big finger, and today after having normal range blood sugar all day yesterday - the pain in my finger subsided by night - I wondered if it was uric acid or what - I woke up this morning with 124 glucose fasting no, and then 110 pre-breakfast.

    Can someone give me perspective on numbers. Is 110-120 bad? It is, right? It's pre-diabetic to be above 100.

    Thanks,
    MM

    PS. Any idea why, when I ate less yesterday, I'd be waking up with spiking blood sugar? I had a very controlled day and failed to drink my last protein shake. It wouldn't be the first time, though. I'm wondering...
     
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    memememeiii Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Throbbing joint gone, one day later. Weird.

    But now blood sugar is spiking, and I'm not sure why. It's about in the 117 range, but still. Really don't know why. This roller coaster ride, emotionally, is fatiguing. Trying to just take it easy. I feel impatient. That said, half a pound came off yesterday, and in two weeks, I'm down 15 lbs. But no real progress re. the blood sugar. There's still a way to go.

    Reading articles like this...depresses me. No idea what to make of it.

    https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/features/stop-diabetes-meds-doctor#2

    MM
     
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    memememeiii Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    End of week three...I have lost 19 lbs. I broke the diet three times. And I'm aware of the need to rein it in or this is going to derail altogether. I'm trying not to have extremist thinking about this, as I'm aware that there are 80 lbs to lose not just 40, and then I need to keep it off. I read about a guy who shed 60 lbs and became non-diabetic (in practice, anyway...he exercises a lot and keeps it off, but can eat normally). I wish. I dream. This is what I want.

    I have had some very frustrating moments, and am doing - I suppose - as well as I can in self nurturing, educating myself, and trying to stay the course with the help of my doctor and friends. My doc has reduced my Janumet to half a dosage - 1 pill a day with 850 mg of metformin in it. I find my heart pulse all OVER the place and now slowing to the point where the weight loss is stupidly slow. I mean, I actually have to REALLY work hard to get even a pound off in a few days. It's frustrating.

    I'm trying to become more vigilant about drinking 3L of water a day - haven't done it yet. And this no-oil business is a nightmare. I won't mince words about it. I absolutely hate it. But I can see it's key to losing weight faster. Oil is dense in calories. You may all disagree with me. Thoughts? I am not convinced that HIGH amounts of fat is the answer to staying healthy...I wonder if LCHF means...moderate/healthy 'high' fats, ie. higher than we've been brainwashed into thinking we should have.

    I crave food all the time. It's a slow agony.

    But I have done well so far. Carrying on.

    MM.
     
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    Well done on persevering and 19lbs in 3 weeks really is very good going...

    I believe in moderation, so for me I wouldnt do 'no oil' but just moderate oil.

    Congratulating yourself is a must.... but not in food terms...lol!! If you've made sacrifices then enjoy yourself doing something... or do nothing, if you need to... recognise that you havent given up, good weightloss and still persevering.

    Dont let your food become boring, think of it as a lifestyle change rather than diet.. we are all behind you or in your pockets....you arent alone...

    Have you taken your measurements??
     
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    memememeiii Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hey there. I have not taken measurements yet, but I can fully see that I'm fitting into clothing I had stopped fitting, and I will measure soon. Yes, step by step. It's hard. People leaving country. Going away dinners. It's very hard to stick to this right now. I don't know if I'll conform 100% during such moments, but trying.

    Definite yes to the lifestyle thing.

    Thank you.
     
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    donnellysdogs Type 1 · Master

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    How are you doing?
     
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    memememeiii Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for asking...I measured...and knew these numbers would be down from my original. I suppose I really need to have another go at it in two weeks. :) It's slow re. the weight loss right now, but I've cheated a bit on the diet, and last night was out at friends' for dinner (lots of goodbye dinners here now) and they fed me soup, surely with oil in it, and brined chicken, which was amazing and probably drained of a lot of oil, but I added salad dressing that had maple syrup in it. It's incredibly challenging to be mercenary about this, but I am at least for a while longer before I switch to lifestyle weight loss mode.

    I checked my body fat percentage yesterday - seriously obese at 44%!!!!! Shocking. Even with weight loss of 22 lbs in 25 days, the photos and facts don't lie. It keeps me strong, and I have waves of serious upset and sadness about how long this is going to take to get numbers to be steady, how long for the pancreas to work better. I read recent articles that it takes about 3 months on the Newcastle University regime. That's hard work, especially when I'm looking forward to going home for the summer to see loved ones. Arghh...and a week in the Netherlands...two weeks in Greece. At least, I'll make the healthiest choices I can, and do a lot of soups and raw, plus healthy protein.

    Thanks again for checking in. I hope you are doing well.

    MM

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    memememeiii Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Checking in.

    This past summer, I travelled and took two meditation intensives...attended two full week-long retreats, one of them silent. I can see the franticness in my mind is gone, to a point. It's a journey. Start where you are. You are always where you are.

    I ate green snap peas all summer, in the West, and then simply tried to be mindful of choosing healthy. I gave up on completely abstaining from breads and carbs. In the end, it appears, now that I'm on the ground and home again, I've lost 5 lbs from where I was in May. 199 lbs at present.

    I also learned that I have 'metatarsal march fractures' - my toes/cartilage have small fractures from the weight I'm carrying. My toes are breaking. WTF. At least a friend told me she had the same, and once she lost 50 lbs, the pain went away. At least I have a proper diagnosis and not some out-there guess by a doctor. It was a Greek doctor who recognized this problem. "Soldiers have it," he said.

    So. I carry on. With less frantic energy. Quieter. Still frustrated, but progressing. Working on mindful thinking, mindful living.

    MM.
     
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    often our motivation is our achievements, effects. Do not get addicted. If you want to be healthier and look better - just think about it. If you are tempted by sweets or empty calories - take care of something else: a walk, a book, a film, a conversation with a friend? You need to develop a good habit of returning to bad food - it's a habit and you have to overcome it. such as drinking alcohol or smoking cigarettes
     
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    memememeiii Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I read this last month and appreciated the reminder. Addiction. Hmmmmm. Yes. I’m working at the level of creating habits. I’ve been yo-yo-ing up and down 3 lbs and am now at 196 lbs. Probably more accurately at 195-194. I’m aiming for the next 10 lbs off.

    My last H1AC was 5.39 last week. But my morning glucose readings can still be 113 like today or 119. I continue to work this. Going to try Keto now for a bit. Using the Carb Manager app to help me.
     
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    memememeiii Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I will re-post from another thread where I started and now add in my cholesterol numbers, which have RISEN. This is a concern. Heart disease runs in my family. I’m refusing statins 100%. Any thoughts on approach to diet other than Keto appreciated. I believe I’m still battling fatty liver, gastro stuff like non-specified ulcerative colitis. Inflammation, basically. Now renewing my research.

    WEIGHT:
    May 2018 - 233 lbs
    Sept 30, 2018 - 189 lbs

    Cholesterol:
    Total Cholesterol:

    Jan 2017 - 239 (high)
    April 2017 - 222
    July 2017 - 179 - I was working out over an hour/day most days - summer workout schedule - 3 workouts per day of cardio on the treadmill, swimming, and weights - minimum 20 minutes and more like 40 min per workout)
    March 2018 - 192 - Insanely stressful five months at work since Nov 2017.
    May 2018 - 234 - battling hyperthyroidism which kicked off in the winter; not surprisingly, my current weight matches where I was at in Jan 2017 - 225 lbs - and I'm yoyo-ing. I've lost 7 since Jan 2017, but this is the heaviest range I've ever been in, re. my weight. My peak weight was 233 lbs in Jan 2017.
    Sept 2018 - 245 - highest ever!!!

    Triglycerides:
    Jan 2017 - 256 (high)
    April 2017 - 217 (high)
    July 2017 - 131 (normal) - I was working out over an hour/day most days - summer workout schedule - 3 workouts per day of cardio on the treadmill, swimming, and weights - minimum 20 minutes and more like 40 min per workout)
    March 2018 - 335 (high) - Insanely stressful five months at work since Nov 2017.
    May 2018 - 285 (high) - battling hyperthyroidism which kicked off in the winter; not surprisingly, my current weight matches where I was at in Jan 2017 - 225 lbs - and I'm yoyo-ing. I've lost 7 since Jan 2017, but this is the heaviest range I've ever been in, re. my weight. My peak weight was 233 lbs in Jan 2017.
    Sept 2018 - 171.

    HDL-Cholesterol
    Jan 2017 - 47 (normal)
    April 2017 - 40
    July 2017 - 35
    May 2018 - 41
    Sept 2018 - 45 (lower normal)

    LDL-Cholesterol
    Jan 2017 - 140 (high)
    April 2017 - 148 (high)
    July 2017 - 118 (normal
    May 2018 - 136 (high)
    Sept 2018 - 194 (high)

    VLDL
    Sept 2018 - 34

    Total Cholesterol/HDL
    Jan 2017 - 5.5 (Average risk, whatever that means - my doctor says it's high)
    April 2017 - 5.55 (Average risk)
    July 2017 - 5.17 (Average risk)
    March 2018 - 4.57 (Average risk)
    May 5.71 (Average risk)

    Looking at these numbers, I find myself wondering if the weight alone is affecting my glucose readings, or if any of this medication could be ramping up my numbers:
    Sept - 5.44

    Meds recap:
    Pentasa - for ulcerative colitis - on for the past 5 months - 1 mg/3/day
    Metformin 750 mg/2/day now replaced with Janumet/Sitagliptin 2/day
    Concor - 1 per day since the hyperthyroidism kicked off 3 months ago. (Stopped in Sept 2018)
    Carbimazole - 10 mg/3/day - I never recalled having a problem with this re. my diabetes before, but I became pre-diabetic at the SAME POINT as my hyperthyroidism starting in Jan 2012. (Now Hypo on paper so meds reduces to 4/day in Sept 2018).

    As of May 2018, I am EXACTLY at the 6.5 year mark for having identified these symptoms as hyperthyroidic and prediabetic and now diabetic.

    Update: H1AC
    Sept 2018 - 5.39
     
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    Hoping to give you a bit of hope re. the neuropathy. I was diagnosed 6 months ago, but I had neuropathy and RLS affecting my feet and lower legs very badly (pain and numbness - should not be allowed to occur at the same time, right?) and after 6 months of strictly adhering to LCHF I can say with hand on heart that I have noticed a very real improvement in my symptoms. My below knees rarely stop me from falling asleep or staying asleep right now. My feet have lost the "ice cold throbby" feeling (they felt like ice blocks even when warm to the touch). They're still quite numb, but I believe nerve damage can take a long time reversing, and while I don't expect a full recovery, I think they are still improving very slowly. I also don't feel like I'm walking on bone with no cushion quite so much.
     
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    Hi all. I have to say...I have been experiencing definite confusion with regard to approaches re. diet and moving downwards. After following the Newcastle Diet for about five weeks before the summer, then going HCHF in a sense while travelling, and losing the PLOT completely while in one country in a situation where I couldn't control my foods, and then on to another country where the food served was not Keto but WAS vegetarian with a considerable amount of fruit and oats in the morning - then salads, veg casseroles with veg protein and soup at night - plus I ate cheese (NOTE: I DID NOT TRACK MY GLUCOSE AT ALL) - I managed to get out of the summer maintaining my weight loss.

    Since then I have yo-yo'ed up and down, and finally - fed up with that - I've started Keto. I've shed about 7 lbs in about a week. But...wow...I have taken flack from a plant based low fat adherent and have, in turn, been encouraged by a fan and well researched woman I know to carry on with Keto. TALK ABOUT CONFUSING. I have gone back and forth through Diabetes UK's own site and do NOT want to eat that way...is it the plant based diet? I need to check, but way too many processed carbs for my liking - whole grain breads, etc??? - ugh. So, I'm doing keto and using Carb Manager to help me.

    I've learned:

    1. It's so easy to overeat meat, it's not funny. Not a lot of meat is required at all. The paranoia about this is - to me - overblown.
    2. I could choose to do vegetarian keto, but I haven't researched this.
    3. It's quite hard to get all the required fat in!!!!!!!! I just cannot hit a target of 70% without going over 5% carbs.
    4. Nevertheless, I have shed 7 lbs in about as many days. So...I have overcome a plateau that has been bugging me for easily 6 weeks or longer. ONWARDS.

    Any thoughts on the evils of keto vs. the virtues of it...appreciated. I see it as a short term intervention, and then from there will move to a moderate diet with intermittent fasting. Probably something like an untracked Mediterranean Diet where I can have a little of everything, abstaining from processed foods mainly. Because this nagging fear of heart disease and the CONSTANT DEBATE about it, when it runs in my family, makes me absolutely paranoid. I mean it. It does.

    Equally, on keto right now, I'm experiencing diarrhea that had STOPPED when I cut back on the meat and oils. Perhaps the dairy is triggering this. But I think it's the oil in the diet. I'm trying to eat my carbs with the fats, so as to ensure the fibre mops this up, but...still. I don't need THAT problem. It's annoying, though I love the weight loss.

    I'm really keen to tackle the inflammation problem, and all indications are that LCHF/Keto/Paleo are the way to go. I just can't decide if meat is just not a problem or it is. I mean in the quantities that Keto promotes. Which doesn't seem like that much meat to me - two entrees and a protein shake a day pretty much hits my protein target. Or maybe that's with one Babybel cheese thing, too. It's not a lot of protein. What the heck is all the paranoia about? The fear of loss of electrolytes.

    Meanwhile, low fat means you lose the protection of fatty acids as you deprive your body of THAT if you do low fat higher carb diet. Yeesh.

    I'm persisting with Keto, as I want to hit a goal of 25 lbs off by Christmas. I also exercise, but moderately, though I do exercise 1-2 times on average per day several days a week. Exercise is a min of 30 min, and it is not running. It's walking on the treadmill for usually 45-60 minutes, it might be dancing at home for an hour, and it's usually weight training...my weight lifting is getting to the point where I am increasing weights beautifully and like what's happening to my body.

    Some on Keto say: do not exercise. Bunk. Others say do. The key seems to be not to deplete yourself to excess. I don't. So, that's that.

    I'm really pleased to get to 189 lbs from 233 at my high in May. My markers as I stated are that my cholesterol remains 'high' from a standpoint of a doctor, but then I watched LOTS of presentations online about how 'the research' states it is a big fat lie that high cholesterol kills us. We can be well over 200 in the 300 range, and the risk (though I wonder if it is for diabetics, too, or 'diabetes reversed' folk) is a lie. It is not 44% who are improved by taking a statin (I refuse - outright) but only 1% of people get the benefit of statins, etc. I want to completely lay to rest the heart disease question re. sticky fat in the blood stream causing clotting. Still researching all this. Anyway...I'm losing weight, but my morning fasting numbers have been rocketing up and down this week...owing to...

    1. rice cakes a few days ago???
    2. Extra chewing gum (been binging on it, and my gut was a mess these past two days, so ... that?)???
    3. No idea.

    That's what is happening. I welcome any thoughts.

    Meanwhile, I persist. I'm mulling going vegetarian keto with soy products. They say soy is bad for you. Crikey. What isn't bad for you? It just goes on and on and on and ON.

    Thanks,
    MM.
     
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    Thank you for sharing this. So good to hear of your success.
     
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