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Husband won't listen - help!

sammie

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Hi,

I was looking around for some information, and found this forum, so I hope you can help! My husband has been diabetic since he was six years old, but he still doesn't seem to have great control over it. Before I met him I knew very little about diabetes, so I've read up all I can, and I really think he's keeping things from me. When I ask him about it, he gets angry and won't talk and says "now isn't the time", but there never seems to BE a right time to talk about it.

What confirmed my suspicions even more was a phone call I got from the diabetic nurse when he was away working. As she wasn't able to speak to him, she told me she was concerned that he doesn't seem to be controlling his diabetes well, especially considering how long he's had it. She asked me if he had a lot of hypos, and when I told her no (he has small ones occasionally, but hasn't had a big one for a few years now, and when he does feel funny he'll have some sugar water and then he's ok. But still, it's not all the time), she was even more unhappy as it seemed to confirm what she suspected and said he wasn't 'ok'. I told her she would be able to get hold of him on his way home the next day, and I gave her his mobile number, but according to my husband she didn't call back, and I honestly don't know whether to believe him or not, and when I told him what she told me, he didn't get mad, but seemed a little worried that I'd told her about him not having many hypos because he seemed to think they'd take him in, and he didn't want to miss work.

I suffer from ME (which I've only finally just started to get proper treatment for) so am not able to work as much as I'd like, so having enough money to make sure we always have enough food is a struggle, but I still try to make sure he eats properly, even if some days we don't have a lot. I always put him first because I know he needs it more, and I worry if he has not eaten properly.

He tells me that with his work (he works in show security) he'd rather his sugars were high because it's a stressful job, but I know that's not good for him at all, but he seems to think when we can't afford much, it's ok to buy cheaper, sweet things and live off those, because then at least he's not low. The stupid thing is I KNOW he knows better than that, having had it most of his life (he's nearly 28 now), but he just won't let me talk to him about it. Now he just seems depressed most of the time and there always seems to be something wrong with him. He gets quite a lot of pain, but he just puts it down to this, that and the other, but sometimes I barely have to touch him before he's yelling out that it hurt.

He takes levemir and novorapid, but he hasn't taken the novorapid for ages, saying he was told he doesn't need it anymore, which I think is c**p, and it's still on his up-to-date prescriptions. I doubt the doctor would prescribe something he didn't need. He also hardly ever checks his blood-sugar.

I'm guessing it's the lack of control he has over it that's making him snappy and defensive. He's usually a lovely guy, but if I try and talk to him about his diabetes, he completely changes, and now he's quite short-tempered.

When he's next at work I'm going to call the nurse myself and see what we can do. I can't see him willingingly going to an appointment that I've arranged for him, especially if I've done it behind his back (which I'd feel bad about doing), but he also won't go any other way unless it's his routine appointment, which he probably won't even let me come to.

When things have settled and we're earning more (the financial mess came when we moved away and the job he was originally supposed to have fell through), we want to try and start a family, but as much as I'm longing to be a mum, I told him I refuse to until he's sorted himself out, because if I can accidentally hurt him just by brushing past him, and the little things wind him up, how's he going to handle a baby with its crying and unintentional hair-pulling, and the child wanting to play and jumping on him?

He knows full well what the risks are, and how much long-term damage he could be doing to himself (he currently has his eyes lasered every few months because of blod clots). I don't moan at him, and instead try and talk to him maturely and calmly, as I've always done, and he knows I worry, but honestly, how can I get through to him? What's the best course of action?


Thanks for listening, and hopefully someone can give me some advice :)
 
sammie.
Sorry to hear that you having such a hard time with your Hubby and his Diabetes.

I wish we could help and wave a magic wand in some way but it really is no quick fix. HE has to realise that this is all having an effect, not just on himself but is now affecting you and future decisions (children). He sounds very much like he has given up trying to control things because it obviously isn't working, do you know what he is doing at the moment. Is this because of something HE is doing wrong, something he is not doing but tells you he is ? His symptoms at the moment all seem to indicate very high blood glucose levels........not good.

If you could persuade him to look at the posts here, join maybe and ask questions, get good advice from fellow Diabetic's......that might be something you MIGHT be able to do, but tread carefully.

Is the Diabetic Nurse at a Diabetic Clinic or just the Practice Nurse who deals with Diabetic's ?

Diabetes CAN be controlled very well and without too much hassle providing the person who has it is prepared for a little hard work and to change their attitude. Doing that I am sorry to say is very difficult for some.

I really do hope you can make him see sense.
 
He really needs to start testing his blood, the novarapid ?should be used before meals to try and anticipate the food and bring the sugar levels down. idealy

he does need to go to a clinic, but needs to take documented evidance of his blood sugar readings ? 3-6 times a day over at least a week or 2.

if his pain is down to his high blood levels then things may be bad

I'm not sure of your finances and your food, but the insulins should be able to roughly control mosts diets

how would he react to you leaing this forum open on your pc, so he comes accross it

I'm sorry things are that bad, we all know what he needs to do, but he needs to do it!! will he go to his GP?

it is easy for us to say things, but must be terrable for you

good luck
 
It very much sounds as though he's stuck his head in the sand as he's got himself in a bit of pickle and he doesn't actually know how to ask for help so he buries his head a bit deeper in the sand... The more you get concerned the more worried he gets and buries his head even futher into the sand...

How do you say to someone, I can't do this I don't understand it all?

When you've been doing this for the past 22 years I know no differet than a diabetic lifestyle, more so when you are a man???

He's been diabetic for about the same amount as me, but he had more of a disavantage than I did as I've always taken looked after my own diabetes as I was in my 20's when I was digonsed (married and a mum) he was 6 years old so his parents would have controlled his diabetes to their best abilites and not taking control until he was in his teens...

And it all depends on what knowledge and training, or has everybody just assumed that because he's been stabbing himself for xxx numbers that he knows what he's doing... In the main his diabetic control would actually been controlled by somebody else, and it very much depends on if they passed their knowledge and understanding to him... Which is sounds as though this hasn't happened, now he's struggling he's afraid to ask for help, doesn't like it being talked about as he feel lesser of a man etc etc...

So you've got to find a way of finding a way for him to open up and talk to his team, to how he feels about his condition and believe me this isn't easy what's so ever...

You can get a book about control, John walsh does a very good one called Using Insulin... This hopefully will give you ideas but also shnneow him that it can be controlled, he could do with asking his clinic about carb counting courses, DAFNE (Dose adjustment for normal eating) is the best but not all hospitals provide it, but do their own version of it..

But if you can reasure him, that his diabetic team will not be judgmental towards him, if he goes to see them they won't start on how many appointments etc he's missed nor will they read the riot act if he's completely honest and says sorry I haven't been having my jabs as I should, nor have I been taking my BG's etc etc.. They will only be interested in helping him to move forward itno gaining control...

Also try to reasure him that yes it's is taunting taking control and at the begining it seems like an upward time comsuming battle, but as you start to gain and settle into the new routine it all does get easier...

As it may be that with his type of work which I should imagine invovles unperdicatable work patterns and hours, that he would be a good candidate for an insulin pump which will give him more flexiblity enabling to mathc his work hours and stress loads, avoiding the highs and hypo a lot easier
 
Hi although i am a new diabetic and d'ont konw much about it. I can share a little info of my own which involved a job falling threw and how it affected me and my wife. I too was in a similar situation and out of male bravado ended up working myself to burn out. I felt i had let my family down and wanted my wife to want for nothing . I now can no longer work due to an injury occuring to my spine. My wife has stood by me threw it all . What i'm trying to say to you is your hubby mabye thinks like all us men that he can work through all this and provide for you. The reality is his diabeties is coming second to his need to provide for you . Maybe a nice healthy meal , Candle lit dinner, a meaningfull tune. You may have your chance to tell him all the money in the world is'nt all that (with out him! ) :wink: good luck i hope it turns out great for you both x.
 
Hi Sammie,

I have been diabetic since I was 4...and went through a spell, where I behaved just like your husband...and admit now that I was being an idiot!

I know it will surprise many people on here, but I did actually feel Ok in myself, whn I didn't take my novorapid very often...BUT, and this is a biig BUT, it did catch up with me in the end. I had to have lots, and lots of laser surgery on my eyes. I can still drive, but, thsi was a huge worry for me fro a whiile.

All this was 15 years ago, and since then things ahve got better and better, but like anything else, I had to want to do it myself. I hope that it doesn't take such a harsh wake up call for your husband.

Not sure what to suggest, may be, a concenred, we will do this together approach, rather than a parent child type of relationship....I know that this is not what you are doing, you are a concenered and caring wife, trying to help the man she loves, and I am not critising you at all, you are a hero..but it does feel like you are being nagged. I know myself, that if I am treated like a child...I will act like one!

Wishing you all teh very best.
 
Thank you so much everyone for all your replies. We've had quite a good day today, so I tried talking to him again just now after he cottoned onto the fact that I seemed to have something I wanted to say, and, by some miracle, we actually had a proper conversation about it, and I even went as far as telling him what I wrote on here, and what you all said in your replies. He knows I've caught him out, and after reading what you all said, he said he's going to make an appointment tomorrow, and he wants me to go with him. Result!

Thanks again, and I'll keep you up-to-date with what happens at the clinic. Feeling a lot happier now :)
 
Hi

I'm sorry that you are having these prbs with your husband,

Maybe you ought to get him to read te thread thats been posted by Ellen, does open your eyes thats for sure. Hopefully before its too late when he starts to have probs.

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=12551

He needs to be healthy especially if he wants to continue to work! if he gets ill whats he guna do then?

I hope he sorts himself out, I went thru a phase of not caring about myself however recent years my life has turned around and I have seen first hand what can go wrong if you dont look after yourself, i struggle to control my diabetes however i do do the best I can, and I'm sure I'm not alone in saying this either.

fingers crossed for you both

Kaz
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