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Hyper help please

deeds24

deeds24

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Location
Glasgow
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi
I'm T2 and today started on Glycazide 40mg alongside my usual 2000mg Metformin today. My last HB was 98 (11.5%) so that's why my doctor started me on the new med. Fasting BG was 17.2 this morning had a slice of wholemeal toast with banana and a cup of black coffe no sugar so far today about noon, not feeling very well so just retested and I'm 20.8. Sore head and vision disturbances. Any help to get numbers down would be much appreciated.
Dee
 
Hi @deeds24 sorry to hear of your sore head and vision. Many folk here find that high carbs cause their BG to spike, and reducing them help with bringing down levels overall. Do have a look around the LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) threads and recipes for ideas.
Personally I have not eaten bread of any sort for several months as I find it raises my Blood sugars, likewise banana is a no-no for me, being far to sweet. It has a lot of sugar in it. It might help to explore alternatives, strawbs are in season.
FWIW I have been able to get my Fasting Glucose down from 16.5 to 6 ish since diagnosis at the start of the year by reducing the starchy carbs from my plate
 
deeds24 said:
Hi
I'm T2 and today started on Glycazide 40mg alongside my usual 2000mg Metformin today. My last HB was 98 (11.5%) so that's why my doctor started me on the new med. Fasting BG was 17.2 this morning had a slice of wholemeal toast with banana and a cup of black coffe no sugar so far today about noon, not feeling very well so just retested and I'm 20.8. Sore head and vision disturbances. Any help to get numbers down would be much appreciated.
Dee
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The glicizide should start lowering your bloods unless there is a reason why it won't, and one of them is your high carb intake.
Reduce your carbs, reduce your plate size and increase your exercise if you can!
Then if you use your monitor correctly, in a month or so, your levels will start coming down towards normal levels.
But you have to do it slowly because of the meds.
A big drop of your blood glucose levels will be just as bad from where you are now. It's not an instant treatment, many struggle on meds as well. It all depends on your insulin resistance and how much you eat and what your diet consists of.
Read the low carb forum to get ideas and recipes.
 
Thank you walnut_face and nosher. I'll try and cut out carbs as much as possible. I have a stomach problem that means i cannot tolerate high fat food. I'm going to do a bit of research through the low carb recipes to find low fat and low carb.
Thank you again guys. X
 
deeds24 said:
Thank you walnut_face and nosher. I'll try and cut out carbs as much as possible. I have a stomach problem that means i cannot tolerate high fat food. I'm going to do a bit of research through the low carb recipes to find low fat and low carb.
Thank you again guys. X
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If you can you should do little bits of full fat, a bit of butter, cream, full fat Greek yogurt, eat some of the fat of your meat, there are low carb vegetables that will fill you and have great benefits, nuts, Chia seeds and so on, all good fats!
Cook with animal fats or coconut oil, all good low carb, or the best natural fat is 100% virgin olive oil.
You have to find what suits you, we can suggest but don't know all the dietary problems you have.
Stay away from low or no fat, no added sugar or reduced sugar as they will probably be too much at the present time.
On the LCHF, the high bit means higher than you usually eat!
Just upping your full fat a bit each will slow your digestion slowly.

Hope this helps.
 
I had to give up my breakfast of toast and banana. Banana is now only OK for me when I'm doing a long (more than 5 miles) walk and toast likewise.
 
@deeds24 - How long have you been type 2 for if you don't mind me asking? You're new to this forum, but you may not be new to diabetes. I myself wasn't new to diabetes when I joined this forum.

Whilst I agree with others about reducing carbs, you mention you only had one slice of wholemeal bread with a banana (I'm assuming it wasn't a big one if you had it on your toast?). Being that you're on meds you should've had a lower BG reading than you did. But also you mention you do have dietary issues. I'm in the same boat, but probably not the same as you. It won't hurt to try and adjust your diet. But I would think that if you are waking up on 17 mmol that your meds aren't working too well either. There is the possibility that something else other than food is affecting your sugar levels too.

What I'm going to say is that really with levels like that you should be seeing your doctor as soon as you can. If you continue having high levels, you probably need to get your insulin production checked and that is done via a c-peptide test. I say this because if you are insulin deficient then oral meds are not going to help, you would need insulin. I don't know the answer to my first question... so I'm covering a bit here. If you're newly diagnosed then I would assume you've had these diagnostic tests done? I wish you the best. :)
 
Mep said:
@deeds24 - How long have you been type 2 for if you don't mind me asking? You're new to this forum, but you may not be new to diabetes. I myself wasn't new to diabetes when I joined this forum.

Whilst I agree with others about reducing carbs, you mention you only had one slice of wholemeal bread with a banana (I'm assuming it wasn't a big one if you had it on your toast?). Being that you're on meds you should've had a lower BG reading than you did. But also you mention you do have dietary issues. I'm in the same boat, but probably not the same as you. It won't hurt to try and adjust your diet. But I would think that if you are waking up on 17 mmol that your meds aren't working too well either. There is the possibility that something else other than food is affecting your sugar levels too.

What I'm going to say is that really with levels like that you should be seeing your doctor as soon as you can. If you continue having high levels, you probably need to get your insulin production checked and that is done via a c-peptide test. I say this because if you are insulin deficient then oral meds are not going to help, you would need insulin. I don't know the answer to my first question... so I'm covering a bit here. If you're newly diagnosed then I would assume you've had these diagnostic tests done? I wish you the best. :)
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Mep said:
@deeds24 - How long have you been type 2 for if you don't mind me asking? You're new to this forum, but you may not be new to diabetes. I myself wasn't new to diabetes when I joined this forum.

Whilst I agree with others about reducing carbs, you mention you only had one slice of wholemeal bread with a banana (I'm assuming it wasn't a big one if you had it on your toast?). Being that you're on meds you should've had a lower BG reading than you did. But also you mention you do have dietary issues. I'm in the same boat, but probably not the same as you. It won't hurt to try and adjust your diet. But I would think that if you are waking up on 17 mmol that your meds aren't working too well either. There is the possibility that something else other than food is affecting your sugar levels too.

What I'm going to say is that really with levels like that you should be seeing your doctor as soon as you can. If you continue having high levels, you probably need to get your insulin production checked and that is done via a c-peptide test. I say this because if you are insulin deficient then oral meds are not going to help, you would need insulin. I don't know the answer to my first question... so I'm covering a bit here. If you're newly diagnosed then I would assume you've had these diagnostic tests done? I wish you the best. :)
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Hi Mep,
Thank you for your reply, you're right I'm not newly diagnosed, it was actually back in 2012., however it is only recently that my levels have become out of control. My eyesight is showing signs of retinopathy, I have neuropathy in my feet & hands. I have had an appointment with my doctor and the plan is to get me on the maximum dose of Glicazide as soon as possible, I was prescribed 40mg of Glicazide and it this will be increased to 80mg as of tomorrow. The problem with high fat diets is that following pancreatitis 30 years ago caused by gall stones, I lost about 25% of my pancreas on top of that I have open lesions in my stomach which means I can't eat too much fat without being in terrible pain or vomiting.
My brother has just been diagnosed with a genetic condition which does have a link to diabetes I'm getting tested for it next week, if it turns out I do have it it may be the cause of my high blood sugar results.
Haha if I was a horse I would be put down by now. X
 
deeds24 said:
Hi Mep,
Thank you for your reply, you're right I'm not newly diagnosed, it was actually back in 2012., however it is only recently that my levels have become out of control. My eyesight is showing signs of retinopathy, I have neuropathy in my feet & hands. I have had an appointment with my doctor and the plan is to get me on the maximum dose of Glicazide as soon as possible, I was prescribed 40mg of Glicazide and it this will be increased to 80mg as of tomorrow. The problem with high fat diets is that following pancreatitis 30 years ago caused by gall stones, I lost about 25% of my pancreas on top of that I have open lesions in my stomach which means I can't eat too much fat without being in terrible pain or vomiting.
My brother has just been diagnosed with a genetic condition which does have a link to diabetes I'm getting tested for it next week, if it turns out I do have it it may be the cause of my high blood sugar results.
Haha if I was a horse I would be put down by now. X
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Oh good you're going to see your doc. :) I would probably ask your doc to run the diagnostic tests on you if they've not been done recently. I have had both the GAD test and c-peptide test done 3 times since diagnosis. The last one I had was in 2010 and it showed I no longer produce sufficient insulin. I insisted on getting those tests done because I was being put on various types of meds and none of them were working too well at all on me. I said to my endo look something is wrong here... like how many meds do I have to try? He agreed to do the tests. The results meant I was placed on full time insulin therapy. I hope you find out the answers though. I was put on all different dosages, etc. too... but in the end they didn't help simply because I didn't have the insulin for the drugs to work. The oral meds only work if you have your own insulin. It's worthwhile getting it checked if you haven't already done so. Hopefully your doc will help you get your sugar levels down.
 
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