Hypo thoughts!

saruhbeau said:

I am just coming out of a hypo (2.2, not nice!) So bear with me while I explain.

I just noticed that one of my main hypo symptoms is actually to do with a change in the way I think. I start thinking of philosophical, random ****. Like just now the thought was "how lucky am I that all it takes to bring up a hypo is jelly babies!!" It only takes 20 mins for me to start feeling better. Some conditions take months to get over a flare up or even not at all, and aren't fixed with a few sweets.

This is just an example of the random headspace hypo's send me to and I am not asking people to comment on the actual thought. But I wondered if anyone else experiences random or philosophical thoughts while hypo? Sometimes I start getting fixated on say, thinuking about mathematical patterns. Sometimes I get very low mood and low thoughts like what is the point, but this feeling disappears as soon as my bg is in range! Most of the time my thoughts get really deep and meaningful.

Does anyone else get this? Just tested and I'm 2.9. Sorry if this is jumbled! I wanted to explain while I still understand what this feeling is like as I have always imagined I am the only one to get this symptom of a hypo as I have never heard there is a name for it!?

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Hi. I'm not sure why I am replying...I'm Type 2 and have been lucky in regards to hypos...only a couple. It probably sounds ridiculous but when I had my first one, and saw the 2.9 on my meter after feeling weird and light headed, I thought - great...an excuse to stuff some sweeties in my gob! I can't say I experience random or "philosophical" thoughts that I could put down to the hypos - coz I do that pretty much most of the time! I reckon it is to do with not being focused, concentrating on something or engaged in a particular thing at a given moment...or maybe it's my natural state when not working or studying or just caught up in something. That said, maybe others will let us know they drift between subconscious concepts while they are in hypo mode. Hey, at least it's a little benefit when your level's low. I wonder if the opposite is true..and we all think in way to dull a manner when our blood sugar is at the higher end of "normal".

saruhbeau said:

I am just coming out of a hypo (2.2, not nice!) So bear with me while I explain.

I just noticed that one of my main hypo symptoms is actually to do with a change in the way I think. I start thinking of philosophical, random ****. Like just now the thought was "how lucky am I that all it takes to bring up a hypo is jelly babies!!" It only takes 20 mins for me to start feeling better. Some conditions take months to get over a flare up or even not at all, and aren't fixed with a few sweets.

This is just an example of the random headspace hypo's send me to and I am not asking people to comment on the actual thought. But I wondered if anyone else experiences random or philosophical thoughts while hypo? Sometimes I start getting fixated on say, thinuking about mathematical patterns. Sometimes I get very low mood and low thoughts like what is the point, but this feeling disappears as soon as my bg is in range! Most of the time my thoughts get really deep and meaningful.

Does anyone else get this? Just tested and I'm 2.9. Sorry if this is jumbled! I wanted to explain while I still understand what this feeling is like as I have always imagined I am the only one to get this symptom of a hypo as I have never heard there is a name for it!?

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No, I can't say I get that. I do know my first symptom is usually a sudden dread or panic though, then the rest of the symptoms follow. We're all different when it comes to hypo symptoms though. Some of us get a lot of symptoms, and some only get one or two of them. At least you recognise your hypo symptom so you know what to look out for. It's awful when low and yes you can recover quick, but equally I can take hours to recover from one as well. My endocrinologist explained that the very first thing to go when you hypo is your judgment (maybe that explains your thoughts), and it is the last thing to return too which means that when we think we're ok we're actually not. He told me that even with a mild hypo it is a minimum of half an hour to recover even if I feel fine in say 20 mins. What he meant by saying that is that I shouldn't be driving or making any decision to put lives at risk during that recovery time.

I experience clarity then confusion as the hypo progresses.

Clarity in my 4s and high end 3s.
Confusion in 2s and severe palpatations in high end 1s.

I'm a type2 on insulin.
I feel type1s have faster effects.

My hypos don't come on very suddenly. They take a while to get there so I'm very fortunate I get ample time to find my hypo threatment food/drink.

Fast changes in sugar levels affect the vessels more.
More insulin, faster the hypo reaction for me.

Yes, there is a period where clarity and perception is hightened for me but if I'm distracted it gets brushed to one side til hypo symptoms are stronger and won't allow me to ignore it.
It is dangerous to ignore any hypo no matter which type of diabetes we are thou.

If we could be constantly in 4s and 5s just think how clever we would be?!?!

I can feel very down and upset and feel like I have a beef with the world ( but I am not aggressive at all) my mind sometimes feels like it is going to 10 to the dozen.

My hypo experience were never of clarity or awareness once the hypos kicked in.
My anxiety and brain fog took over, I know that my mind used to go numb and my memory would be absent probably as a defence mechanism.
I know I have temporarily zonked out and found myself not knowing what the devil has been going on.
Even during an eOGTT, the confusion and disorientation, caused the sister and doctor who was looking after me, were in a right state, not knowing what was going on!

I wouldn't recommend continuous hypos for even my worst enemy!


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ickihun said:

If we could be constantly in 4s and 5s just think how clever we would be?!?!

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Smart insulin which switches on and off in response to glucose looks quite promising. If they can get that to work, that would be as good as a cure, just fire and forget. But it's obviously a big if....

https://jdrf.org.uk/our-research/about-our-research/treat/smart-insulin/

Scott-C said:

Smart insulin which switches on and off in response to glucose looks quite promising. If they can get that to work, that would be as good as a cure, just fire and forget. But it's obviously a big if....

https://jdrf.org.uk/our-research/about-our-research/treat/smart-insulin/

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Oh wow that would be lovely. I can cope with injections watching what I eat etc etc. I just have a really bad fear of hypos

saruhbeau said:

I am just coming out of a hypo (2.2, not nice!) So bear with me while I explain.

This is just an example of the random headspace hypo's send me to and I am not asking people to comment on the actual thought. But I wondered if anyone else experiences random or philosophical thoughts while hypo? ... Most of the time my thoughts get really deep and meaningful.

Does anyone else get this? Just tested and I'm 2.9. Sorry if this is jumbled! I wanted to explain while I still understand what this feeling is like as I have always imagined I am the only one to get this symptom of a hypo as I have never heard there is a name for it!?

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Yes, I get this, I KNOW the answer..to everything, its really clear (ok.. bonkers to anyone else) and then as my numbers improve the answer slips away no matter how hard I try to hold on to it. Sometimes I clean stuff too..need a sandwich, must clean the worktop, start with cleaning the sink, must first bleach the cloth....etc..etc...x

I had a lovely one last week. The problem was I couldn't decide what to do first! Should I go make a coffee with cream and eat something or should I take the gluco juice first. Managed to text husband and he told me to take the juice first! Sometimes you just can't decide which is what I find a nuisance.

@saruh beau

With GP you may never normally feel hungry..... as your stomach will feel full.

For me I never thought I am hypo... my first thoughts are-I need to test and my 2nd ones are I need to eat.

I never think these thoughts normally.

Although I never, never in 30+ years thought I am hypo... I recognise the thoughts I think.... and these thoughts have enable d me to keep my d licence.

My docs and all medics know this. Its recognising your signals.....

Also, the faster the drops- with GP they can be very fast... the worse the hypo's.
Less carbs, less insulin, less drop..

Also this is another reason to be considered for the pump as you only have any direct bolys for food in you or up to 6hrs insulin. It makes hypo's milder and enables better recignition.

My pump enabled less severe hypo's, deginitely improved night recognition and day recognition. Night hypo's I could be a nightmare to hubby.. screaming and shouting and running around house naked and really bad. However even now back on MDI for 2 years those bad hypo's have never returned.

You may not think "I'm hypo" but it is definitely about recognising thoughts and symptoms that occur.

I had one really severe one with cancer therapist last year. She knew I T1, as is her brother... she saw me eating sugar and fudge but the hypo lasted two 1/2 hours. She hasnt never told me what I said.... it was baf enough for her to contact psychiatric team and A&E. then she realised I was hypo...because of the sugar cubes and fudge I had been eating. It helped then to write on the plastic box. "I am hypo", "tell someone".
Thats been my only severe hypo (except my curry one) I have had in 7 years.

Again. Your stomach and rekeasing glucose us different to the average T1.. my stomach and liver also dont react fast either.. as I dislike drinks I found it better to carry and suck sugar cubes as they do not have to go through the stomach.

Do consider having glucogel just in case as tjis too can be rubbed into gums and avoids your stomach...and will avoid you vomiting it back up...

Thinking of you... blooming hard with GP.. look at your symptoms... and thiughts prior to hypo..

Best wishes to you, I know its so difficult and persons with GP and stomach/colon probs do react differently to the "average" T1. Xx

@saruhbeau
your thread is definitely a feeling I encounter when hypo ( below 2.2 )-- I have some very lucid "in my own mind" thoughts that I can solve all sorts of problems , I have written great songs , in short -- I have felt as though all things are possible.

I always try to hold on to these thoughts as I get back to over 4 readings -- but sadly I have never been able to grasp the "nettle" and remember all these great things.

but it definitely is a real feeling and sensation to me.

thank you for posting this !!

Yep, I can associate with this..

Prior to the "mind racing" it does feel like I've walked into a room & forgotten what I went in there for...?
Then...
Stuck in a "loop" & paradoxical in my musings about "life universe & everything."
It almost feels like I've almost cracked the big conundrum without the "black board" & chalk equations...?
Then I come up feeling like I've just watched "Donny Darko?"

Similar to @himtoo regarding the creativity, But I have come out of it with memories to some catchy song "hook lines."

I got the shakes while lecturing a few months ago. I'd love to think that it added searing clarity of thought to my lecture, but I think clarity of thought is the first thing that goes in my case (as in being convinced that if I keep going I'll make it to the end). Lectures are all recorded at my university now -- some day I will dare to watch the recording and look for the panic in my eyes as I realize what is happening and I start talking rubbish...