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hi there @The Diabetes man
welcome to the forum
I will tag @daisy1 - she provides a super starter pack of info to read.
there are loads of sensible people here to assist as well.
no question is silly -- and just take your time for D is a marathon not a sprint !!!!!!!!!!
welcome to the forum
I will tag @daisy1 - she provides a super starter pack of info to read.
there are loads of sensible people here to assist as well.
no question is silly -- and just take your time for D is a marathon not a sprint !!!!!!!!!!
Lamont D
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I know quite a lot of reds supporters and most of them are totally confused about a lot of things!
Welcome to the forum!
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@The Diabetes man
Hello and welcome to the forum Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful, particularly regarding the carb contents of certain foods. It contains a link to the Low Carb Program too. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.
BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS
Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.
A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.
On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.
The role of carbohydrate
Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.
If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.
The bad news
Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.
The good news
People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.
Controlling your carbs
The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.
The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.
Choosing better carbohydrates
Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html
The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.
Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes
LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program
Eating what works for you
Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.
To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.
The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:
Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.
You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic
Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Hello and welcome to the forum
Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful, particularly regarding the carb contents of certain foods. It contains a link to the Low Carb Program too. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS
Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.
A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.
On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.
The role of carbohydrate
Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.
If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.
The bad news
Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.
The good news
People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.
Controlling your carbs
The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
- Reduce your carbohydrate intake
- Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.
The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.
Choosing better carbohydrates
Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html
The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.
Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes
LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program
Eating what works for you
Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.
To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.
The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:
Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
- Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
- structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
- self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education
Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.
You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic
Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Pinkorchid
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You will always find conflicting advice because no two diabetics are the same so what suits one does not suit another and it is all trial and error to find the best way to suit us personally. A lot here choose the low carb high fat way of eating and it works for them but as that is not the official NHS advice nurses and doctors will probably tell you something different. It will be up to you to experiment to find your best way
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Thank you. I have been able to listen to my body and act accordingly .I know when I am high and when I am low .Its just confusing when you are told different advice to do .I am glad I have the forum.
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So do II know quite a lot of reds supporters and most of them are totally confused about a lot of things!
Welcome to the forum!
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I was told that a diabetic can eat everything that a non diabetics eat but in moderation and use common sense with diet. For example, don't eat a whole cake or a ten cookies when you know you have diabetes. Have these as treats once in a blue moon. After that, test to see how it affects your blood sugar and stay away from food that spikes you.
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Ross.Walker
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Hello
Document everything, it is useful over time to see where the answers came from. Is the advice wrong, it could be but it all depends on what was asked. Sorry a bit managerial there. Everyone is different, we all react differently to different foods, we are all starting at different levels of health, these will steer peoples answers towards their experiences.
If you have a question ask it, there are very few dumb questions.
My approach was to create a base line of what my typical foods do to me, this was done by testing before and afterwards. Test before and after sports. If for you it is a short walk then do that walk, learn to love it. If you can do more each day, do it. Celebrate success.
Spice your food up, it should never be dull.
Best hint so far this summer. Drink water, hypoxia and dehydration will lead you to being punched in the face during a halo jump because you're brain is elsewhere.
This is not meant to be a tripe answer. Ask away, research, learn and like lots of us you will be fine, not saying it's all easy but it's only as hard as you make it.
Ross
Document everything, it is useful over time to see where the answers came from. Is the advice wrong, it could be but it all depends on what was asked. Sorry a bit managerial there. Everyone is different, we all react differently to different foods, we are all starting at different levels of health, these will steer peoples answers towards their experiences.
If you have a question ask it, there are very few dumb questions.
My approach was to create a base line of what my typical foods do to me, this was done by testing before and afterwards. Test before and after sports. If for you it is a short walk then do that walk, learn to love it. If you can do more each day, do it. Celebrate success.
Spice your food up, it should never be dull.
Best hint so far this summer. Drink water, hypoxia and dehydration will lead you to being punched in the face during a halo jump because you're brain is elsewhere.
This is not meant to be a tripe answer. Ask away, research, learn and like lots of us you will be fine, not saying it's all easy but it's only as hard as you make it.
Ross
Pinkorchid
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I am sure that works for many diabetics there are some folk here that have things in moderation rather than cut them out altogether. We are all very different so we all have to find out whatever works for us personally
JohnEGreen
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@The Diabetes man Unfortunatly I think I should tell you that a bowl of scouse has around 500 calories and about 59gms of carbohydrates
That said welcome to the forum you will find lots of useful info here and more importantly in my view a great deal of support and friendly advice..
That said welcome to the forum you will find lots of useful info here and more importantly in my view a great deal of support and friendly advice..
I started 5 months ago following the LCHF diet (way of life) and lost 1 stone in weight and reduced my Glicklazide meds by half. In 3 months time I will come off all meds except 500m Metformin for balance. I have more energy etc. So my advice, along with "diet doctor" would be to follow the LCHF diet rigidly.
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@Keesha It is a form of Mutton stew popular in Liverpool I was virtually brought up on it.
Unfortunately it is quite a bit high in carbohydrates so is off the menu for me now.
http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/24961/proper-scouse.aspx
or
http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/1678...px?o_ln=SimRecipes_Link_2&o_is=SimilarRecipes
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