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I'd like to spread the word a bit, can anyone help?

I care about my family and have advised them of the possible consequences of the western diet. They have tried all of my low carb meals and have enjoyed them. For the family that still live with me I tell them why I have made changes in the food shopping, be it leaving out some items such as regular bread substituting it for Bergen which they like, lower carb fruit although I still buy bananas because they like them and I have completely stopped using seed oils. I have had no complaints so far and they are at liberty to have any foods they like outside of my home. I can only advise the people around me but the choice is theirs.
Learning gives us more choices which is why I choose to spread the word, too.
 
Jo_the_boat said:
I take your point.
Basically because much of the food they cook and post about is carb-laden - lovely but not the healthiest.
Of course I'd like to persuade them to look after themselves a bit better, but one of them in particular may find it a good challenge to dish up good food that is also ultra healthy.
I need to persuade him first what healthy is - that's perhaps more of a challenge.
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Imo it might be better to talk about healthy people rather than healthy diets. That is, what is healthy for each individual to eat at their particular stage / age of life, for their chosen mode of living / objectives, given their medical history and medical problems. I used to work with children whose kidneys had failed or were failing. The diet they were obliged to eat was certainly not healthy, but it was better for them than eating a "healthy" diet and dropping dead. Just because a low carb diet is optimal for me, doesn't mean everyone should eat like that.
 
Pinkorchid said:
I would not dream of telling non diabetic friends or family they should not eat carbs that would be to patronising We are not experts on what people should or should not be eating we are just a very small minority of diabetics who eats low carb
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I won't. What I am trying to do is make them consider the potential consequences of not looking after themselves. I just want to encourage people to think.
By jotting down my own story, without directly telling anybody to do this or don't do that, I thought this may be the way to go.
Out of a couple of hundred people who receive it, twenty might look at it, five may finish it and one may actively do something.
What I do know is that later today I'll go and collect my brother-in-law who's coming round to have dinner with us. I'll push him in his wheelchair and have my lunch sitting opposite a guy who's lost both his legs to diabetes and who will only see me as a blur across the table.
I also know that if I ever met someone in real trouble who said, 'boy, I wish I'd known,' and I had done nothing, I would feel pretty inadequate.
A few folks have said they want to pass on what I've written. Why? Maybe because it's by an ordinary bloke and they identify with it. Maybe they genuinely want to help their friends and family, or are fearful they may end up in the same boat. Maybe they want to try and make those close to them to understand what they are going through.
I don't know, but whatever their reasons, I can assure you I'm not trying to be patronising, I don't think they are either.

It's 6.30 AM, Christmas morning. In three hours we'll be popping over to see the laughing eyes of our grandsons - I look forward to that.
Whatever you're all doing, I hope you have have a lovely day.
 
librarising said:
Just some initial thoughts. I'm only up to 5 Various tests.

In the last few months I've had an ECG (electrocardiogram) an echocardiogram, an angiogram, and a CT scan.

What you describe as a CT scan sounds like an echocardiogram. Mine was exactly the same as this picture
http://manateecardio.com/services-treatments/ultrasounds/echocardiograms/
Only my echo required cold gel.

What you describe as an angiogram sounds like my CT scan.
My angiogram was again like the picture here
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/angiography/what-happens/
N.B. no doughnut-shaped machine, but a rotatable x-ray. During the angiogram staff were always present.

My CT scan was taken with this very same machine and I was literally the first patient to use it. The consultant took a photo of me on it to commemorate it. I'll be asking the internet to remove it should it ever appear !
https://twitter.com/RBHCharity/status/939164558178111493
During the scan my hands were above my head (but not for angiogram) and staff left the room (due to teething problems this was for about 40 mins - I felt abandoned !)

N.B. Both angiogram and CT scan use the contrast dye, and both require cannulation. My CT scan was walk-in (and don the elegant robe) whilst my angiogram required day-unit admission for a few hours.
Angiogram procedures don't tend to be in x-ray depts. CT scans do.

Libras tend to be a bit anal when it comes to terminology, but we do like to be exact.

Have a good one !
Geoff
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You're quite right - I'm an idiot. I had an Ultrasound (gel) and Angiogram (dye)!
It's one of the typos I've corrected.
I misread the letter (which I've subsequently lost) which I believe stated that the location for the Angiogram was in the X-ray / CT department (I think).
Thanks for putting me straight.
Aquarians tend to be a bit scatter-brained when under the influence of panic and red wine!
 
Jo_the_boat said:
I have written 'my story so far'.
I've written it on my own web site as that was the best way for me to get it down and spread the word.
It's going to be sent to my friends, family and other people on my database.
It's NOT a money-making thing. I just want to inform people about (primarily) T2 from a personal angle.

If anyone has time could they have a scroll through and let me know a) if it reads OK and b) if I've made any glaring ****-ups.
PM me if you'd rather..

Here..... http://abargeatlarge.co.uk/articles/the fat bloke/index.html

Thanks
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I’ve read it and will go back to read more and more I did a bold article too about when I was first given insulin
 
I'm learning as I go along and am still refining my web site, but I read these two quotes by @DavidGrahamJones and they piqued my interest:

"I'm not going to mention Ancel Keys, mainly because of the the slightly inaccurate conspiracy surrounding his 6, 7, 22 country study. I haven't quite got to the bottom of that conundrum."
and
"He gets a lot more bad press than he deserves and it would be useful to look at what actually happened. Some articles that I have read suggest that he wasn't guilty of what he's accused of (cherry picking) but he certainly didn't help matters."

A White Paper was published in August 2017. It was commissioned by The True Health Initiative.
Here is White Paper

Having read most of it, particularly each section's conclusions and the final summary by Dr David Katz
http://davidkatzmd.com/
I find I agree with DGJs comments above.

That doesn't mean that low fat, high carb, low cholesterol is good of course, but it seems fair for me to try and offer a proper account if I'm going to bother at all. So, I have made some changes half way down this page: http://abargeatlarge.co.uk/articles/the fat bloke/4 tackling it.html

One example is the Seven Countries Graph, shown in more than one presentation I've seen. It helps portray Keys as 'misguided' (to be polite) but, according to the white paper at least, all is not as I have been led to believe.
 
Jo_the_boat said:
I'm learning as I go along and am still refining my web site, but I read these two quotes by @DavidGrahamJones and they piqued my interest:

"I'm not going to mention Ancel Keys, mainly because of the the slightly inaccurate conspiracy surrounding his 6, 7, 22 country study. I haven't quite got to the bottom of that conundrum."
and
"He gets a lot more bad press than he deserves and it would be useful to look at what actually happened. Some articles that I have read suggest that he wasn't guilty of what he's accused of (cherry picking) but he certainly didn't help matters."

A White Paper was published in August 2017. It was commissioned by The True Health Initiative.
Here is White Paper

Having read most of it, particularly each section's conclusions and the final summary by Dr David Katz
http://davidkatzmd.com/
I find I agree with DGJs comments above.

That doesn't mean that low fat, high carb, low cholesterol is good of course, but it seems fair for me to try and offer a proper account if I'm going to bother at all. So, I have made some changes half way down this page: http://abargeatlarge.co.uk/articles/the fat bloke/4 tackling it.html

One example is the Seven Countries Graph, shown in more than one presentation I've seen. It helps portray Keys as 'misguided' (to be polite) but, according to the white paper at least, all is not as I have been led to believe.
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You may be interested in Zoe Harcombe's response to this 'white paper' on Ancel Keys.

http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2017/08/the-seven-countries-study-part-1/
 
Jo_the_boat said:
I won't. What I am trying to do is make them consider the potential consequences of not looking after themselves. I just want to encourage people to think.
By jotting down my own story, without directly telling anybody to do this or don't do that, I thought this may be the way to go.
Out of a couple of hundred people who receive it, twenty might look at it, five may finish it and one may actively do something.
What I do know is that later today I'll go and collect my brother-in-law who's coming round to have dinner with us. I'll push him in his wheelchair and have my lunch sitting opposite a guy who's lost both his legs to diabetes and who will only see me as a blur across the table.
I also know that if I ever met someone in real trouble who said, 'boy, I wish I'd known,' and I had done nothing, I would feel pretty inadequate.
A few folks have said they want to pass on what I've written. Why? Maybe because it's by an ordinary bloke and they identify with it. Maybe they genuinely want to help their friends and family, or are fearful they may end up in the same boat. Maybe they want to try and make those close to them to understand what they are going through.
I don't know, but whatever their reasons, I can assure you I'm not trying to be patronising, I don't think they are either.

It's 6.30 AM, Christmas morning. In three hours we'll be popping over to see the laughing eyes of our grandsons - I look forward to that.
Whatever you're all doing, I hope you have have a lovely day.
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Hi I 've justfinished reading your article .
This is a very strong message to put across to all of us.
I am thinking leaving the forum: I feel I have been over helpful to some members who has been asking the questions and.with my reply to the question ,it may make his angry!!

Time to say goodbye and I have no intention to offend anyone.
Thank you for reading my final farewell.
D.J 001
 
Guzzler said:
You may be interested in Zoe Harcombe's response to this 'white paper' on Ancel Keys.

http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2017/08/the-seven-countries-study-part-1/
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Which is why I have used the word 'may' when referring to whether Ancel Keys has been unfairly judged.
She too of course has books to promote. I'm not judging her right or wrong either, just trying to let others make their own minds up.
It's perfectly obvious which direction I'm going but what I am no longer comfortable with is laying everything at his door, which I did initially.
It's also pretty clear that in the text that follows, whatever his conclusions, I've re-directed people towards more recent theories, in line with many on here.
Put another way, although you and I are in the same camp, I'm targeting people who have no idea what we go through nor the consequences of a poor lifestyle.
Coming across as a fervent, set-in-stone fanatic, going blindly down a single track will probably put people off rather than encourage them to think about things. I need to demonstrate at least having considered other options.
 
Jo_the_boat said:
Which is why I have used the word 'may' when referring to whether Ancel Keys has been unfairly judged.
She too of course has books to promote. I'm not judging her right or wrong either, just trying to let others make their own minds up.
It's perfectly obvious which direction I'm going but what I am no longer comfortable with is laying everything at his door, which I did initially.
It's also pretty clear that in the text that follows, whatever his conclusions, I've re-directed people towards more recent theories, in line with many on here.
Put another way, although you and I are in the same camp, I'm targeting people who have no idea what we go through nor the consequences of a poor lifestyle.
Coming across as a fervent, set-in-stone fanatic, going blindly down a single track will probably put people off rather than encourage them to think about things. I need to demonstrate at least having considered other options.
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I agree entirely. We have to look at both sides of an argument before deciding for ourselves otherwise we become like fish in a shoal.
 
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