I just wanted to winge that on my novorapid pens,if you put the needle on first, you have to remove the outer protective cover, or the pen lid does not fit! Therefore, you go to get out your pen, and find that the lid has come off ot and the needle and it's inner cover are bent and useless! GGRRR! The lids either need to screw on /fit tighter/ or the pens be redesigned so that the whole needle within it's protective cover fits under the pen lid!Debloubed said:that is so true about pens vs syringes, I never injected in public with a syringe, all the air bubbles and bottles etc, made it all look very complicated (even though it wasn't!) and drew far too much attention than I wanted as a teenager! Pens are ideal for discretion and also, convenient as you can pop the needle on before you leave the house to make it even quicker![]()