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Insulin how long duss it take to start to work on me

alan52

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Hi to every one in here i am new to this i was takeing tablets for my diabetes but they no longer work on me so i have to start takeing Insulin aqnd still take Metaformin 2 in the morning 2 in the afternoon and i have to take 16ml of novomix 30 at brekfist and 8 ml at tea time.What i wood like to no is when duss it start to show with your b.s a difrens my b.s levils are 2 me highthe highest is 30.8 and the lowest was 19.3 ok i havent took this insulin for a week yet but with the tablets not working on me you wood well i wood like to see a change in my b.s levils Cood it be my age that it takes so long in geting normil agen i am 52

Alan52
 
Welcome to the Forum, Alan.

Can you tell us something about what you eat during a typical day ? The amount of Carbohydrate you eat will cause your blood sugar levels to be too high, you have to help the Insulin and medication by reducing the carb intake.

Here is the advice we give to new Diabetics, it may help a bit.



Here is the advice we usually give to newly diagnosed Diabetics. We hope that these few ideas gained through experience help you to gain control and give you some understanding of Diabetes. This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different.

It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, Diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.

The main carbs to avoid OR reduce are the complex or starchy Carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, starchy root veg and also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.

If you are on Insulin you may find that reducing the carb intake also means that you can reduce your dose of Insulin. This can help you to keep weight gain down as Insulin tends to make you put on weight and eventually cause Insulin resistance. This should be done slowly so as not to cause hypos.

The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating, then two hours after eating, you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels. Some foods, which are slow acting Carbohydrates, are absorbed more slowly so you may need to test three or even four hours later to see the effect that these have on your blood glucose levels.

Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.

When you are buying products check the total Carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a Diabetic.

As for a tester, try asking the Nurse/Doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own Diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try !!

If you are an Insulin user in theory you should have no problem getting test strips.

The latest 2010 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l........(Type 1 & 2)
2 hrs after meals......no more than 8.5 mmol/l.....( Type 2)

2hrs after meals....... no more than 9 mmol/l ......(Type 1)

If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.

It also helps if you can do 30 minutes moderate exercise a day. It doesn't have to be strenuous.

The above is just general advice and it is recommended that you discuss with your HCP before making any changes. You can also ask questions on the forum on anything that is not clear.

Sue/Ken.
 
I see its in the food i eat i just eat most food just the same as i have dun all my life so your telling me i need to cut the amount down and change the bread and rolls i eat less chees less cold meet eat mor veg and frute just wish i new what was good for me and what is bad for me then i wood go out and get what is good and leave what i think is good for me on the shelves

Alan52
 
The only way you will find out what is good and bad for YOU is by frequent testing for a while to see the effect that certain foods have on your Bg levels. Once you have determined the ones that are bad, then either reduce them or cut them out altogether. That will help your Diabetic control.

You need to test on waking, pre meal and 2 hrs after meals, then maybe a test at bedtime. Some foods which are slow acting carbohydrates will mean you need to test at 3 or 4 hrs.

Log all the results together with a food diary which lists what you eat and when. Compare this with your Bg levels to see which foods are a YES, and which are a NO.

This is a lifestyle change.......something you need to get used to as being for life. You can eat very well, a varied and balanced diet, just all in moderation. :)
 
Hi Alan You've got to read all your labels.
Put back all those foods with more than a crum of sugar. Thats the easy (and hard) bit.
As lots of foods come full of carbohydrates (carbs), these are as bad for your blood sugar as sugar, or even worse. As a first step you have to drop all the sugar foods, biscuits, cakes, chocolate and sweets etc. Then you need to look at foods like bread, potatos and rice, as these foods especially, contain a lot of carbs, and they are the type that are digested too quickly, thus pushing up your blood sugar. If you are eating these foods you will have a high blood sugar count and will have some problems trying to control it. Before diagnoses I would eat sweet stuff to give me energy, but it only makes you feel worse later on.
Your metformin and insulin help to take the sugar out of your blood so you can use it for energy. A none diebetic person does not need this help. You have to avoid over loading your blood with sugars and carbs so your medicine can do its job. This should make you feel better, give you more energy and help you to keep clear of the many complications of diabetes.
Sitmulating your body through exercise is also vital in helping to best cope with all the added strain put on your body by diabetes. This can be challenge when struggling with low energy levels. But I have found this to be very rewarding. Seeming to get a lot more energy out of it than I put in. I'M NO EXPERT Alan but as a rough guide I hope the above gives you something to work with. Take care
 
In answer to the topic title, about 10-30mins with maximum effect after some hours (4ish) for NovoRapid which I believe NovoMix contains? The slow acting part of the mix will take longer, an hour or two maybe? It varies, a lot, dependent on person.

It's not like the tablets that take days to build up to an effective dose. But you will have probably been started on a low dose, I was, and I think that's the normal approach to starting insulin. Do you have a phone number for your diabetes team? They might be able to help you adjust the dose over the phone if you tell them what the readings are.
 
Thanks for the help you all have given me got in tuch with the nurs about my B.S levils so she poot me up to 20ml inthe morninf and 12 ml in the afternoon dont no why i have to take less in the afternoon i seem to eat more in the afternoon up till bed time sorry about keeping asking questons (duss any one take more insulin say when they have went out for a meel and a drink ) or do every one just stike to the one in the morning and the one in the afternoon.

Alan52
 
I've no idea how anyone could possibly have good control on novomix or any mixed insulin like that to be honest. How do correction doses work, wouldn't they mess up the long-lasting insulin? But maybe the dose is lower in the afternoon because some of the morning insulin is still active?
 
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