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insulin not working the same

doccydoo

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Type of diabetes
Type 1
Treatment type
Insulin
Hi everyone
I only have to look at a small scone or something sweet and my blood sugars go way high , all this has happened since i had an infection over Christmas .It did put itself right ,the off it goes again . i am age 70 yrs young and have always controlled my diabetes well ,i seem to be self adjusting all the time i am also trying to lose weight .i eat loads of veg i wonder do i need to change my insulin .I have been on Lantus and Novo Rapid for years now any advise would be great sorry type 1 for 35 years and no complications thankfully although i do suffer from fibromyalgia
 
Have you changed your insulin vials/pens/cartridges just in case it's 'gone off' and become ineffective? That's the first thing I'd do.

Could you be ill? Are you on any meds that might be affecting your blood sugar? Are you under any stress?

If you've ruled those things out, I suggest doing a basal test to make sure your Lantus is at the right dose. If that's ok, you can look at your meal doses. It might also worth giving your DSN a call for advice.
 
Illness related loss of good BS control is common in Type 1. You know the drill: adjust the Novolog temporarily and it will pass. Thankfully I rarely get sick, but I had a couple of epidural steroid injections on my back a few years ago and YIKES! It was temporary but it's the secretion of extra corticosteroids that leads to the higher BS's in illness.
 
Hi everyone
I only have to look at a small scone or something sweet and my blood sugars go way high , all this has happened since i had an infection over Christmas .It did put itself right ,the off it goes again . i am age 70 yrs young and have always controlled my diabetes well ,i seem to be self adjusting all the time i am also trying to lose weight .i eat loads of veg i wonder do i need to change my insulin .I have been on Lantus and Novo Rapid for years now any advise would be great sorry type 1 for 35 years and no complications thankfully although i do suffer from fibromyalgia

Hello @doccydoo

Are you following LCHF in your efforts to lose weight, and managing to keep up with daily exercise?

Illness will often raise BGs, it's something we have to accept and work with, there's no magic cure and everyone is different. Things like cough medicine/lozenges are loaded with sugars, and will also cause a spike in sugars.

@daisy1 will be along with some more general advice.

Edited to remove confusing advice.
 
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Hi everyone
I only have to look at a small scone or something sweet and my blood sugars go way high , all this has happened since i had an infection over Christmas .It did put itself right ,the off it goes again . i am age 70 yrs young and have always controlled my diabetes well ,i seem to be self adjusting all the time i am also trying to lose weight .i eat loads of veg i wonder do i need to change my insulin .I have been on Lantus and Novo Rapid for years now any advise would be great sorry type 1 for 35 years and no complications thankfully although i do suffer from fibromyalgia

It's interesting that your blood sugar is sometimes ok, then goes "off" again. Have you seen a doctor to check the infection is completely gone, and that there's nothing else affecting your control?

Have you done a basal test to check that that's right? Sometimes basal needs can change.

If your basal is ok, then you can move on to looking at your meal time doses. Eating the same meals for a few days is boring but can help you work out what insulin you need.

There have been issues with Novorapid in the past, so iv nothing else works you could ask if that might be the issue and trial another insulin for meals.
 
It's interesting that your blood sugar is sometimes ok, then goes "off" again. Have you seen a doctor to check the infection is completely gone, and that there's nothing else affecting your control?

Have you done a basal test to check that that's right? Sometimes basal needs can change.

If your basal is ok, then you can move on to looking at your meal time doses. Eating the same meals for a few days is boring but can help you work out what insulin you need.

There have been issues with Novorapid in the past, so iv nothing else works you could ask if that might be the issue and trial another insulin for meals.
Hi Everyone ,thank you all for your replies i have been under some stress lately , and i am by nature a worrier , .i am following a low carb high fiber diet but the weight just doesn't want to come off i am wandering whether i have a problem with my thyroid as it does run in the family along with diabetes .would that effect my bloods ? i am fairly active also i don,t sit about all day i try to walk a lot of places not take the car ,perhaps its just age ,problem is ,is getting a doctor listen to you these days i have checked insulin and basal most of the time it is fine perhaps another trip to my DSN
 
Hi Everyone ,thank you all for your replies i have been under some stress lately , and i am by nature a worrier , .i am following a low carb high fiber diet but the weight just doesn't want to come off i am wandering whether i have a problem with my thyroid as it does run in the family along with diabetes .would that effect my bloods ? i am fairly active also i don,t sit about all day i try to walk a lot of places not take the car ,perhaps its just age ,problem is ,is getting a doctor listen to you these days i have checked insulin and basal most of the time it is fine perhaps another trip to my DSN

It's definitely worth getting your thyroid checked just to rule that out. You might also find it useful to keep a food diary, partly so you can keep records of your insulin and blood sugar, but also so you can look back over what you're eating. There are also apps that let you record your food intake and then show you how many calories, etc, you're taking in. It's easy to under or over estimate food intake when you just think about it at the end of a day or week, but actually recording it for a few days can highlight any issues (if there are any).
 
My insulin needs change with the weather. When it's cold and gloomy I need more. The last week it has been warm and sunny and I started having mild lows. I'm on lantus and novolog.
 
@doccydoo

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information, mentioned above, which we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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