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<blockquote data-quote="AloeSvea" data-source="post: 887714" data-attributes="member: 150927"><p>I was horrified to see my FBG rise dramatically, and I had a 4 point HBAIC increase in two months (if interested see my entry on the deviated Newcastle diet thread for more details), so sat down with my trusty computer and a new internet connection away-from-home, and figured out a new action plan.</p><p></p><p>I’m not sure if intermittent fasting will work, or even help towards an HBA1c of 40 and below (my goal to get back down to this), but I thought I could conduct yet more experiments on myself and see what happens. Be great to hear how others trying it too are finding it, or have found it, or are thinking of giving it a whirl. I know the 16/8 has been working well for brettza, for instance. And Indy51 has written about how IF has been working well for her. I noticed too in a recent exercise thread that Living by the beach also does IF 16/8 and is happy with it.</p><p></p><p>A few weeks ago, on noticing the FBG rise, I tried the 16/8 once a week for a couple of weeks (fasting for 16 hours including over night, and eating in an 8 hour period) (I hadn’t read the 14/10 for women at that stage), just to feel the ‘fasting regimen drag’ again! And see if it had any affect on my rising FBGs and therefore daily BGs. I’d also been experimenting with apple cider vinegar in the morning, and small amount of alcohol in the late evening (I hate drinking apple cider vinegar - if I had to drink that in the morning AND the evening I think I would just kill myself to lessen the pain and just get it over and done with! ;-).) The goal was to aid my liver in lessening the production of glucose also called the dawn phenomenon, in the wee hours of the morning. It didn’t have any effect. So, it needs to be every day I thought. Came across the 14/10 suggestion for women, and began that.</p><p></p><p>14/10 is very gentle, and I found it a good entre. For me it just means not eating after a very reasonable time after dinner, and just having breakfast later in the morning than I have been. I know that I like to eat in the morning, and I found not skipping my favourite best eating time of the day entirely worked better for me, and just skipping evening snacks was no big deal. After doing it easily for four days, I was greatly relieved. So was my partner! (I was not a happy camper when I tried skipping dinner on one day and breakfast the next once a week over a couple of weeks.) Now I am in a 15/9 groove which seems good for me, and I will see if has any affect on my FBGs over time. </p><p></p><p>I started IF properly (ie every day) a week and a half ago, and increased my resistance exercise regime (all those under utilised muscles in my ab region I figured - just dying to take in my excess blood glucose!). Today after a dawn phenomenon reading of 7.3, I metered at 6.3 during my non-first breakfast time. (ie during the 15 hours fasting segment.) This was encouraging.</p><p></p><p>I’m canning the apple cider vinegar, and am tanking up on bitter melon in capsule form instead, as a supplement. (I am willing to try out herbals recommended in diabetes literature, as a support.) And glucomannan fiber (konjac root which with water expands in an empty gut to promote a feeling of satiety) to help not eat most of the morning. I am very enthusiastic with herbs and spices and plant remedies because I turned down my metformin and statin prescription, and am going for diet and exercise and use the supermarket and health food store as my pharmacy instead. Have done so since diagnosis a year ago. It has worked well for me. But now I have the challenge of my first HBA1c rise. </p><p></p><p>I am STILL coming to terms with the fact that I personally need to be on the lean side of normal weight, it seems, to have my blood glucose as healthy as possible (and of course I don’t know how healthy I can go) ie HBAIc of 40 and below. Possibly/probably a bmi of 22 and below. And if IF can help me do that, then that would be good. Very good indeed. </p><p>So, here’s to IF and a better (as in the realms of normal) blood glucose!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AloeSvea, post: 887714, member: 150927"] I was horrified to see my FBG rise dramatically, and I had a 4 point HBAIC increase in two months (if interested see my entry on the deviated Newcastle diet thread for more details), so sat down with my trusty computer and a new internet connection away-from-home, and figured out a new action plan. I’m not sure if intermittent fasting will work, or even help towards an HBA1c of 40 and below (my goal to get back down to this), but I thought I could conduct yet more experiments on myself and see what happens. Be great to hear how others trying it too are finding it, or have found it, or are thinking of giving it a whirl. I know the 16/8 has been working well for brettza, for instance. And Indy51 has written about how IF has been working well for her. I noticed too in a recent exercise thread that Living by the beach also does IF 16/8 and is happy with it. A few weeks ago, on noticing the FBG rise, I tried the 16/8 once a week for a couple of weeks (fasting for 16 hours including over night, and eating in an 8 hour period) (I hadn’t read the 14/10 for women at that stage), just to feel the ‘fasting regimen drag’ again! And see if it had any affect on my rising FBGs and therefore daily BGs. I’d also been experimenting with apple cider vinegar in the morning, and small amount of alcohol in the late evening (I hate drinking apple cider vinegar - if I had to drink that in the morning AND the evening I think I would just kill myself to lessen the pain and just get it over and done with! ;-).) The goal was to aid my liver in lessening the production of glucose also called the dawn phenomenon, in the wee hours of the morning. It didn’t have any effect. So, it needs to be every day I thought. Came across the 14/10 suggestion for women, and began that. 14/10 is very gentle, and I found it a good entre. For me it just means not eating after a very reasonable time after dinner, and just having breakfast later in the morning than I have been. I know that I like to eat in the morning, and I found not skipping my favourite best eating time of the day entirely worked better for me, and just skipping evening snacks was no big deal. After doing it easily for four days, I was greatly relieved. So was my partner! (I was not a happy camper when I tried skipping dinner on one day and breakfast the next once a week over a couple of weeks.) Now I am in a 15/9 groove which seems good for me, and I will see if has any affect on my FBGs over time. I started IF properly (ie every day) a week and a half ago, and increased my resistance exercise regime (all those under utilised muscles in my ab region I figured - just dying to take in my excess blood glucose!). Today after a dawn phenomenon reading of 7.3, I metered at 6.3 during my non-first breakfast time. (ie during the 15 hours fasting segment.) This was encouraging. I’m canning the apple cider vinegar, and am tanking up on bitter melon in capsule form instead, as a supplement. (I am willing to try out herbals recommended in diabetes literature, as a support.) And glucomannan fiber (konjac root which with water expands in an empty gut to promote a feeling of satiety) to help not eat most of the morning. I am very enthusiastic with herbs and spices and plant remedies because I turned down my metformin and statin prescription, and am going for diet and exercise and use the supermarket and health food store as my pharmacy instead. Have done so since diagnosis a year ago. It has worked well for me. But now I have the challenge of my first HBA1c rise. I am STILL coming to terms with the fact that I personally need to be on the lean side of normal weight, it seems, to have my blood glucose as healthy as possible (and of course I don’t know how healthy I can go) ie HBAIc of 40 and below. Possibly/probably a bmi of 22 and below. And if IF can help me do that, then that would be good. Very good indeed. So, here’s to IF and a better (as in the realms of normal) blood glucose! [/QUOTE]
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