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lavie v

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5
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
hello there all, i am new to this forum. i've been trying to get my numbers in normal range for ages (well i guess all of us are in the same boat). i have been seeing loads of videos online with huge promises asking you to pay for the miracle drug etc......have anyone of you ever heard of Dr.Gerald Schneider and his product Glucobion4 or Dr Jason Fung about fasting.......their videos do make sense but i am not sure if i've been taking for a ride. i was wondering if anyone out there had tried them , or what do u think about them ? many thanks x
 
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JoKalsbeek

Expert
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6,593
Type of diabetes
I reversed my Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
hello there all, i am new to this forum. i've been trying to get my numbers in normal range for ages (well i guess all of us are in the same boat). i have been seeing loads of videos online with huge promises asking you to pay for the miracle drug etc......have anyone of you ever heard of Dr.Gerald Schneider and his product Glucobion4 or Dr Jason Fung about fasting.......their videos do make sense but i am not sure if i've been taking for a ride. i was wondering if anyone out there had tried them , or what do u think about them ? many thanks x
I don't know Dr. Sneider, but I do know Fung's methods work; The Diabetes Code is an excellent book, and not a dry read, thank heavens. Lots of info online is free for all though.... Youtube, dietdoctor... https://josekalsbeek.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-nutritional-thingy.html <--And my layman's Thingy too, haha. If there's anything you want to know, a lot of people here'll have answers for you too, absolutly free of charge. ;)

Good luck!
Jo
 

lavie v

Member
Messages
5
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
I've not heard of Dr Jason Fung selling anything, except his books, especially 'The Diabetes Code' and 'The Obesity Code' - I couldn't recommend him more. I've not come across Dr Gerald Schneider.
thank u so much for your reply. by looking at your profile, looks like u have got your type 2 into remission. how wonderful. could you be kind enough to share if you did then with the help of fasting , while still on medication ? or you did something else , please share...... how long did it take you to reach where you are today. thanks x
 

lavie v

Member
Messages
5
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
thank you so much for your support. i am kind of lost at the moment. so many things out there. can you please share your journey ? i understand everyone is different but i mite learn something that will help me too. thanks. x
 

JenniferM55

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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
thank u so much for your reply. by looking at your profile, looks like u have got your type 2 into remission. how wonderful. could you be kind enough to share if you did then with the help of fasting , while still on medication ? or you did something else , please share...... how long did it take you to reach where you are today. thanks x
The drugs I was prescribed when I was first diagnosed didn't agree with me, so joined this forum for help and advice. Thank goodness I did, I'm really grateful to the people on this forum for pointing me to the right path.

First off I scoured the forum, there's quite a lot of information I didn't understand, and there still is for that matter. On the forum's advice I bought a glucometer to check levels of glucose in my blood. At first the numbers were quite high, but they have gradually come down to normal levels. Basically you test your BG before you are about to eat, then between one and two hours after your meal. If your post-meal reading is 2mmol higher than your pre-meal reading then whatever you've eaten has caused a spike in your blood and is best avoided. By making sure I'm within the correct range all the time is important to me.

The link https://josekalsbeek.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-nutritional-thingy.html explains more than I ever could.

Good luck on your journey to better health. Anything you don't understand please ask, I'm certain someone will be able to help.
 
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JoKalsbeek

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Type of diabetes
I reversed my Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
@lavie v , share my journey... Oh gosh. Well, I was told I was going to die, basically. My liver was so fatty, they thought it was one big cancerous mass. Then it turned out to be an "abnormal stacking of fat on the liver", which was still supposed to kill me, just not in a matter of weeks. So I turned to Dr. Google and looked up what could cause non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. I could rule out diabetes easily, as our cat was diabetic after pancreatitis, so I borrowed his meter. And got a result of 18. I'd just had lunch and soon after I was spiking to 22. My doc went on holiday, but I got put on metformin before she left.... Which very much didn't agree with me. Got switched to gliclazide by either the locum, nurse or the specialist, I don't recall... Bit of a blur, now. But by then I'd already started reading up on alternative ways to get diabetes sorted, because the metformin really had been horrible for me. After a few shouty books that told me I was going to die (again with the dying!) if I didn't do exactly as I was told in the book, I started in on Dr. Fung's Diabetes Code, and he made sense... I could work with what he proposed. I tested a lot, which proved him right over and over again, got my blood sugars back into the normal range through a low carb diet mixed with intermittent fasting... And I've been there for the past 7 years. Medication-free, as I didn't need the glic after 3 months! I made sorties to carnivore and the like, but keto, so far, has suited me best. I did fall off the wagon at the start of this year, as my mom passed and that really hit hard, and before she went I did a lot of roadside eating going back and forth to the hospice every day, but... Even with what I ate then, I didn't reach my old, sky-high numbers, as my insulin resistance/sensitivity has improved. Alas, I am now 44, my thyroid doesn't do what it should and I gained weight in that period, which I can't seem to shift properly, but it's not as bad as it was, once upon a morbidly obese time (Now I guess I'm just slightly obese, not morbidly so!)... My blood sugars are excellent, and I don't have diabetic complications. So I'll call it a win. Also because I should've been in a coffin maybe 6 years or so ago. ;)

So... I eat little to no carbs, stick with healthy fats, protein... Eggs, meat, poultry, (full fat) dairy, above ground veg, and no grains, corn, rice, spuds and underground veg. That's the extremely short version. If it's something you'd like to try, use a meter. See what meals agree with you or no. A HbA1c every once in a while isn't going to help you sort anything out. Also, if you want to try fasting, there's loads of ways to do it, but I just wing it: I don't usually eat breakfast, and if I get hungry, I'll eat. Which can be around 11 am or 3pm, whatever. Working with a schedule can help, but for me it wasn't very workable. Find what works for you, specifically. Between you and your meter, and a plethora of knowledge either from books or online, you'll come far, I'm sure.
 

KennyA

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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
hello there all, i am new to this forum. i've been trying to get my numbers in normal range for ages (well i guess all of us are in the same boat). i have been seeing loads of videos online with huge promises asking you to pay for the miracle drug etc......have anyone of you ever heard of Dr.Gerald Schneider and his product Glucobion4 or Dr Jason Fung about fasting.......their videos do make sense but i am not sure if i've been taking for a ride. i was wondering if anyone out there had tried them , or what do u think about them ? many thanks x
Hi and welcome

Fung is good and the Diabetes Code is well worth a read. I found intermediate fasting went very well with low carb and I've never found hunger a problem.

I have never heard of a Dr Schneider. Rule of thumb: anyone trying to sell you their "product" for your Type 2 is probably up to no good (I don't mean books, cookbooks or recipes, I mean "miracle foods/drugs").
 

lavie v

Member
Messages
5
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi and welcome

Fung is good and the Diabetes Code is well worth a read. I found intermediate fasting went very well with low carb and I've never found hunger a problem.

I have never heard of a Dr Schneider. Rule of thumb: anyone trying to sell you their "product" for your Type 2 is probably up to no good (I don't mean books, cookbooks or recipes, I mean "miracle foods/drugs").
thank you, i guess i'll save my £54.....
 
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JoKalsbeek

Expert
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Type of diabetes
I reversed my Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
thank you, i guess i'll save my £54.....
Buy some extra nice low carb goodies with it. The luxury cheeses, a nice steak, extra dark chocolate, or if there's a chocolatier close by that makes them, sugar free bon bons. Or if you don't have one yet, a meter and strips. You don't need snake oil, you need to find things you enjoy eating that won't spike your blood sugars. I'm sure they're out there! ;)
 

Dhelas

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Type of diabetes
Other
Treatment type
Other
hello there all, i am new to this forum. i've been trying to get my numbers in normal range for ages (well i guess all of us are in the same boat). i have been seeing loads of videos online with huge promises asking you to pay for the miracle drug etc......have anyone of you ever heard of Dr.Gerald Schneider and his product Glucobion4 or Dr Jason Fung about fasting.......their videos do make sense but i am not sure if i've been taking for a ride. i was wondering if anyone out there had tried them , or what do u think about them ? many thanks x
I found the video on Glucobion totally bogus. Its message was manipulative and fear mongering. The voice over for the Doctor/person talking was so badly edited that it was insulting. They want 50$usd for a vitamin treatment. Forget it and move on!
 

Dhelas

Newbie
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Type of diabetes
Other
Treatment type
Other
hello there all, i am new to this forum. i've been trying to get my numbers in normal range for ages (well i guess all of us are in the same boat). i have been seeing loads of videos online with huge promises asking you to pay for the miracle drug etc......have anyone of you ever heard of Dr.Gerald Schneider and his product Glucobion4 or Dr Jason Fung about fasting.......their videos do make sense but i am not sure if i've been taking for a ride. i was wondering if anyone out there had tried them , or what do u think about them ? many thanks x
I listened to an inferior Instagram advertising spot from a so called Dr G. Scheider…it had the worst voice over and badly edited audio I’ve ever seen or heard. I found it manipulative and coercive resulting in an insulting ask of $50.usd for vitamins!!! I’d give Glucobion a wide berth if I were you.