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Kerze85

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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi. Im new here so sorry if this tread is in the wrong category. I'm 26 years old, diagnosed oct 2010 with t2. That time I was told to get my sugar lower by diet and excercise. Never really got support from dr nor dn. since I am planning on getting pregnant this year, I wanted to lower my hba1c to recommended 6.1%, well actually even lower ( non diabrtic levels) and keep it under tight control. Now I know I will need medication to achieve that, already mostly on low carb diet and moderate excercise. Now I am not sure who to talk to to get medication and support, bearing in mind that there will be a pregnancy soon? I am a bit afraid neither nurse nor dr will want to get me on tight control. But I would prefer that to absolutely minimise risks.
Has anyone any ideas how to takle this? Been handed from gp to gynecologist then gp and now just a fasting sugar test? It's like they been avoiding me for months. Want to start ttc after June and this has been going on for 4 months already? Please some advise ?
 
Hello Kerze85,
welcome :)
Does your GP practice have a speciallist Diabetic Nurse? Or your local hospital have a speciallist diabetic team? Either of those would be a good place to start. There may be an education day available too. I think its called DESMOND or something like that, for type2. I hope you get some help soon, as it can be daunting trying to come to terms with diabetes, especially if your GP practice don't have the support you need.
Take care and good luck :)
 
Hi Kerze and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information that we normally give to new members but you must check this with your doctor and/or DN since you are planning to become pregnant. There are other things to take into account as well. Wishing you good luck and please ask as many questions as you like as there is always someone to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS


Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 
Hi. Metformin is commonly prescribed for diabetics including pregnant Mums. It is considered very low risk. If you can get to see an HCP who knows something about diabetes then I would expect them to offer Metformin for starters. Ask for the slow release (SR) version if it gives you stomach problems.
 
Thanks! I am trying to get hold of the diabetic dr. And see from there.
 
Im quite newly diagnosed myself, so I dont know too much. However, I am 33 and am trying for a baby as well. My Dr hasnt said much to me but he knows i am trying to conceive yet 2 weeks ago started me on metformin. From what i have read, and yes there is, as always, conflicting stories, but i dont think that metformin has been shown to cause problems in feotal development - in fact its actually given to some women to aid them in conceiving who are having trouble. The only thing my doc said to me, once im pregnant is that I would be under consultant care at the hospital - thus wouldnt be allowed a normal choice of birth at a midwife run place/home/water pool etc? i'd have to be in hospital. (but then again, being high BMI that would of been the case anyway) And that I would be put onto insulin straight away to keep sugar levels as tight as possible. I think there are higher risks to development in the early months in having unstable and high sugar levels hence requiring insulin rather than metformin.

I would honestly just go to your doctor and be clear about what you want and take notes/ask questions so you feel you have all the information you need. the 2 times ive been since i was diagnosed I go with an A4 page of questions - doc seems to be happy with that - the first meeting he didnt tell me anything about my tests etc, so the 2nd time i told him if i i was going to manage this properly i needed all the information and results.

I have to say though that i wasnt so impressed when he tried to get me on statins, even though my cholesterol levels are in normal range, when I read about how they can affect development of foetus.

Oh and start taking folic acid now - my doc said at my next fasting hbA1c test he would also test my folic acid levels, as i'd read somewhere that diabetics are recommended to take a higher dose than normal which he hadn't heard of. Worth asking about that as well - but in any case you should start taking it 3 months before trying to get pregnant to increase your levels.
 
Hi Kerze85,

First welcome to the forum, secondly well done for knowing what you want and having a goal. A very precious one. I am aware that there are things to take into account with pregnancy, my hospital run a pre conception clinic to get bgs under strict control before even attempting to become pregnant. I am T1 and would assume its the same with T2. I have also heard that there is a need for more folic acid. Hope you get the help and support to help you plan your baby......... :)
 
Hi. Just got results for blood test, 5.8%. But I am aware that's only due to really heavy workouts and low carbing. I have still the appointment with a doctor at my surgery. Should I still request to be put on medication? Well my gynecologist recommend that in her letter to me and the surgery and to up my folic acid intake to 5 mg.
 
First of all, great result! Well done. The only medication I'd ask to be put on is metformin SR (slow release) From comments on here, it's not harmful in pregnancy. There are no other bad side effects with the SR version normally, and it will help with your BGs a little (but not much! Diet and exercise is still your best weapon)
 
Back again. Just had my appointment yesterday. Was told I am not diabetic, that whoever told me that misdiagnosed me and that I dont need any medication or extra folic acid. At least got that doctor to give me a sheet for bloodtest(ogtt). But so miffed that he put all the evidence I showed aside and didnt really want to help. Sorry just me letting a bit of steam of.
 
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