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Rudyard

Rudyard

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Location
Cheshire
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi there folks... I'm a rather depressed T2 diabetic - I was diagnosed some 10 years ago now (I'm 47)... My BS has never been good and late last year I decided to drop the medication, which seemed to be doing me no good what so ever and tried to lose weight. I've gone from almost 17 stone to 14 Stone 6, I exercise much more and have currently started to train for Men's Health 10K in November (which I did with work, last year). I'm also trying to follow a 5:2 diet (Dr. Mosley). I checked my bloods today and they still come out high - at 15. I do very much like a drink and love my wines - beers I try to keep to things like Coors lite, and generally keep to a low carb diet - I love to cook and will always cook from scratch. I'll make the Breadknife a carb element that I wil either pick at or not put on my plate.

My doctor, the practice diabetes specialist is, shall we say, unsympathetic... To the point where I do not want to go...

I guess I'm feeling depressed that no matter what I seem to be doing, nothing seems to improve the bloods and I feel as though I am running out of time to get things corrected. I'm whinging, and I know it. I just need somewhere to whinge to!
 
Hi Rudyard and welcome to the forum :)
Anything we can do to help just let us know.
 
Rudyard said:
Hi there folks... I'm a rather depressed T2 diabetic - I was diagnosed some 10 years ago now (I'm 47)... My BS has never been good and late last year I decided to drop the medication, which seemed to be doing me no good what so ever and tried to lose weight. I've gone from almost 17 stone to 14 Stone 6, I exercise much more and have currently started to train for Men's Health 10K in November (which I did with work, last year). I'm also trying to follow a 5:2 diet (Dr. Mosley). I checked my bloods today and they still come out high - at 15. I do very much like a drink and love my wines - beers I try to keep to things like Coors lite, and generally keep to a low carb diet - I love to cook and will always cook from scratch. I'll make the Breadknife a carb element that I wil either pick at or not put on my plate.

My doctor, the practice diabetes specialist is, shall we say, unsympathetic... To the point where I do not want to go...

I guess I'm feeling depressed that no matter what I seem to be doing, nothing seems to improve the bloods and I feel as though I am running out of time to get things corrected. I'm whinging, and I know it. I just need somewhere to whinge to!
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My story sounds a lot like yours. I started out at nearly 18 stones. I started to get my meds reduced when I dropped to about 15. The lower I got the more my meds were reduced. I am now at 12 1/2 stones and meds free for 10 months. Other people have managed to do the same. Just keep ploding away at the weight loss and watching the carbs.

My problem wasn't with alcohol, it was chocolate and biscuits. I cut down on both at first, and have now managed to stop eating biscuits ( I had one for my birthday and another a week back, just one of those tiny ones they put on your saucer with a cup of coffee in the pub). Diet and exercise really worked. As for running out of time, I was diagnosed in my late 40s early 50s lost the need for meds at 59. And now at 60 hoping to stay meds free for many years to come.
 
hi, welcome, well done for losing the weight and putting in the effort, have you tried a break from the drink, just a couple of weeks it may surprise you enough to help you cut down, ya never know :) but feel free to ignore me (the wife and kids do) hehe, I dint mean to sound holyer than thou, I come from a long line of abusive drunks and shudder at the mention of the stuff, anyway best of luck :)
 
yikes I wasn't suggesting you are an abusive drunk lol, just realised what I said as I hit submit :)
 
Type 2 diabetes is triggered by a build up of liver and pancreatic triglycerides. Alcohol is a major contributor to a build up of these so, even if you are careful with your carbs, try as Andy says and cut the alcohol.

"Alcohol has a significant additive effect on the postprandial triglyceride peak when it accompanies a meal containing fat, especially saturated fat. This results from a decrease in the breakdown of chylomicrons and VLDL remnants due to an acute inhibitory effect of alcohol on lipoprotein lipase activity. Furthermore, alcohol increases the synthesis of large VLDL particles in the liver, which is the main source of triglycerides in the hypertriglyceridemia associated with chronic excessive alcohol intake. In case of chronic consumption, lipoprotein lipase activity seems to adapt itself. The effect of alcohol on adipose tissues is less clear. Sometimes, a severe hypertriglyceridemia induced by alcohol (SHIBA) can be observed, especially in patients with type 2 diabetes mellitus and/or obesity increasing the risk of pancreatitis."

The Effect of Alcohol on Postprandial and Fasting Triglycerides
http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijvm/2012/862504/

It sounds like your food diet is working and you are losing weight but drinking the alcohol is adding amounts back in, smaller amounts than you lose but right in the places you least want it. And you're not going to know because you can't see it.

It's got to be worth a try.
 
Andy12345 said:
yikes I wasn't suggesting you are an abusive drunk lol, just realised what I said as I hit submit :)
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Itsh all right, Pal... Itsh not that I'm an ab... abush.... <Grunt> Grumpy drunk.... It'sh jusht that I'm a drunk!
 
Yorksman - Thank you... I'm yet to understand fully the sciencey bits of diabetes. It's enough to get your head around the complexities of carbohydrates - working full time doesn't help, either. You need a blooming medical Phd to get anywhere close to understanding it all... Which isn't helped by the attitude of the Doctor.

Out of interest, (and should this be posted as a different thread...?) do any of you guys have your hackles raised by Doctors, even those who are supposed to be practise Diabetic specialists, who appear to do nothing to treat you properly. All he would say to me is that your BS are rubbish, BP too high... more medication. Rather than, working together to resolve. This is MY body, after all.

My experience has been to be put on more and more medication and then put on more and more weight and still feeling like *****, until I simply decided to get off the meds and the weight has come off slowly over the past year. Now, I sleep better, I've lost weight.... My alcohol consumption needs attention, fair point
 
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