A type 1 without any carb intake would most probably die
Either through 1) being on insulin and constant hypos 2) by the action of gluconeogenesis and the body not having insulin to mop up the excess leading to high sugars with the assosciated DKA riskHow?
A type 1 without any carb intake would most probably die
No i am refering to no carbs which was what was postulatedAre you not confusing low carb with no carbs?
When I first considered low carbing...the lack of long term safety study is pretty glaring.
So the next best thing would be to have a look at the next group who would most likely be using this for life...from 3 yr old to 83 yr old...enters...Dr B and Typeonegrit...
Who had a limited life expectancyYou’re probably right but only if they didn’t adjust their insulin dose accordingly. Surely type 1 diabetics are still able to manufacture glucose via gluconeogenesis? Clearly it would carry a risk if the patient were not well informed or medically supervised with their dosing, but otherwise I’m unsure by which mechanism a type 1 would die without carbohydrate. In fact before the discovery of insulin, ketogenic diets were the most effective treatment for type 1 diabetes.
Either through 1) being on insulin and constant hypos 2) by the action of gluconeogenesis and the body not having insulin to mop up the excess leading to high sugars with the assosciated DKA risk
Either through 1) being on insulin and constant hypos 2) by the action of gluconeogenesis and the body not having insulin to mop up the excess leading to high sugars with the assosciated DKA risk
Who had a limited life expectancy
No i am refering to no carbs which was what was postulated
There is no question that carb reduction is essential for most if not all T2 diabetics, and some T2s can go to very low carb levels - the picture is completely different for T1’s
Why do you believe that? I see no difference between T1 and T2 having zero carbsA type 1 without any carb intake would most probably die
So it would be an excess of insulin and not the lack of carbs in your first case?
And the second would be caused by a lack of insulin?
So a lack of carbs wouldn't be the cause of either logically.. although carbs could help to regulate?
small input is still an input of carbs - the post was arguing that there is no need for any carbsWrong...small input (carbs) requires small doses of insulin. The law of small numbers. They get flatline glucose CGM readings...they thrive, not die...
Eh? Excess insulin leading to rising sugars? don't think so...DKA with excess insulin .. nope.. DKA is caused by a lack of insulin not an excess.failure to mop up excess insulin leads to rising sugars and potentially DKA,
If you need to take insulin to mop up excess glucose resulting from gluconeogenesis which the body does naturally, particularly in the absence of any carbs and failure to mop up excess insulin leads to rising sugars and potentially DKA, then the lack of any carbs would be the starting point
Just for the record... it is not. These Typeonegrit kids shows me why...
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Let’s asume ketogenic diets are dangerous to type 1 diabetics, and get back to the wider topic, which is are they dangerous for everyone else?
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