Is anyone here familiar with Gabriel Cousens dietary advice?

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So, I got given this book by my (exceptionally well meaning) mother-in-law to be (and if this sounds like a mother-in-law joke or anything, it's really not meant to be) written by a character called Gabriel Cousens. It's called "There is a cure for diabetes".

For those not familar with him, he's this sort of.... well, guru, really, who has been touring the morning shows in America, recently, promoting this book. As you can imagine, with a title like "There is a cure for diabetes", he's getting a fair bit of publicity.

In all fairness to him, he does have an awful lot of letters after his name, it reads something like M.D., M.D. (H), D.D plus some other stuff. It looks good until you realise that his M.D is in psychiatry and the rest of the stuff is either holistic or religious. I just want to know if anyone out there has had any positive experience of his dietary advice. Because the more I read the book, the more I want to scream.

He advocates an entirely raw, vegan diet to live by, cutting caloric intake by 40%. He claims that his completely 'cures' diabetes by removing the eater from 'The Culture of Death' that we live in and training them in his own 'Culture of Life' (go figure on that snappy name, eh?). The diet consists of not much more than nuts and leaves, with a few berries thrown in here and there. He provides all sorts of evidence showing this to bring the BSLs of any Type 2 diabetic (let's note he entirely ignores type 1, which I am) down to 'normal'.


Now, can someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but by only eating a diet like that, you more or less just completely exclude carbohydrate. So isn't that a 'cure' in the same way that an amputation is a 'cure' for a gangrenous foot? Sure, you've got no symptoms anymore, but you're still lacking a working body part?

But I'm trying to be fair. So if anyone here has had a positive experience with any of his cources, or advice, I'd really appreciate hearing about it.

But is it cynical of me to think that I'm not going to?

UPB.
 

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Hi UPB.

A Cure ??
To be perfectly honest it probably has some value as a door stop, or paperweight.

Best advice I can offer is 'bin' it !! :D

Ken.
 

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I think Ken will tell you that at the present stage of knowledge, there is no cure for diabetes. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is a charlatan.
On the other hand, there is some research being conducted on the possibilities being offered by stem cell implants.
Read widely and inwardly digest.
Best wishes.
 

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red said:
Ken,
are you saying that no-one can ever be cured from diabetes?
if so, why?


Hi Red.

As Bill stated there is no cure at present. I was answering a question about a book which I think is a waste of time and money. As for a cure, maybe one day ??

Ken
 

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Ken,can you be cured if you loose a lot of weight (like 10 stone) becuase of the insulin resistance, or not even then?
Red
 

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Red.

You and I will always be Diabetic.

The only thing you can do is lose the weight, decrease your Bg levels and do the best you can. You could end up running marathons and have non-diabetic Bg numbers.
You will improve your quality of life, your fitness, your energy. You will add years to your life.
Nothing in life is simple Red.

Ken.
 

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whats wrong with you Ken,
have you never heard of Fairy God Mother's?
or 3 wishes?
I guess its down to that then.
 

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I am not familiar with the book, but based on your review of it, I'd say he was promoting a particular kind of very active management of diabetes, rather like those of us who manage our diets through low carb or low GI or whatever.

Psychiatrists, even in the USA, have studied general medicine before specialising.

Fresh and raw is good for you, can't argue with that. I regularly have a lunch that consists of leaves, nuts and berries (I believe an avocado is a berry).

A vegan diet is not unhealthy. It may not be for you, but it is not unhealthy. I speak as a fairly strict vegetarian (but not vegan) and I know what it is to treated as a bit (and sometimes more than a bit) odd. Try being a vegetarian in the USA :shock: :wink:

As for a culture of death, well a lot of perfectly legal activities and cultural norms might actually be very bad for us or for the planet. So he isn't wrong there either.

Speaking in quite extreme language is good publicity, especially if it gets you on the telly when you have a book to promote :D So you can't fault his publicity machine. The important thing is that someone buys your book rather than follows your advice :wink:

I'm afraid I can't quote sources, but I have seen some articles that say that a bit of hunger is actually good for you interms of longevity (but we are not talking about malnutrition here). I can't remember where I saw this, but I think there was a BBC health story within the last couple of weeks about this.

The dangerous bit is confusing T1 and T2, but people do that anyway :| And also by assuming that all diabetics are the same - we aren't :roll:

As far as a cure goes, I wonder what would happen if he went back to his old diet? I think it would be a cure, if after a period of treatment you stopped being diabetic and could eat what you liked, when you liked. But otherwise I think I'm going to be a diabetic for the rest of my life, unless red's fairy godmother has a few extra wishes for me.
 

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Spiral - yes you can have the 2nd wish - but you owe me big time.
and please dont anyone else ask - I have got to save the last one for world peace. :D
 

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If you travel to the City of Ankh-Morpork and ask one of the Guards they will direct you to a little shop in the City where you can get all sorts of magical things, wands, broomsticks, moving picture books and even Wizards ? It's quite a long journey though, be careful you don't drop off the edge of the Discworld.
 

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I think Granny and Nanny might have a more practical kind of magic up in the Ramtops, and climbing up there might be a lot better for you BG levels than the risk of bumping in to CMOT Dibbler and one of his convenience lunches in Anhk Morpork.

Although thinking on it, from UPB's original description at the top, Gabriel Cousens definitely sounds a bit wizardy to me :shock: Did he have an interesting line in clothing?
 

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red said:
Spiral - yes you can have the 2nd wish - but you owe me big time.
and please dont anyone else ask - I have got to save the last one for world peace. :D

Thank you, red :D

But thinking about it, maybe I have already got my wish for good health, in getting diagnosed relatively early, before the complications set in. Since I actually got the diagnosis I have started to turn my health around - I am activley managing my diet, I have lost loads of weight and am probably healthier than I have been for years.

All thanks to a diabetes diagnosis, which means I have to keep on managing it for the rest of my life rather than get complacent and backsliding when I get to where I want to be.

If I get my blood sugar in to the normal range I beleive I will have the same risks for the horribiler complications as the rest of the population. I am activley working on being average!

So maybe the diabetes isn't such a curse, if you catch it early enough. I think I may pass on the wish - unless she does one for wealth too :wink: :D
 

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It's quite true that there is NO CURE for diabetes, but it is possible in some cases to put T2 into remission. It's down to diet and exercise and good fortune, whether it will work for any individual.
This Gabriel Cousens diet might do it for some people, but not all.
Hana