I can eat the junk again and have a normal blood glucose response to it (have done many tests). I call this reversed. However, I do know that if (please not let it be when) I go back to being as big as I was I will redevelop the abnormal response. My body is still genetically incompetent, but at least now I know about it. My body may well be somewhat damaged by my previous high levels so that it may return sooner if I grow outwards again than it did last time.
Additionally the diagnoses could be wrong and some of us T2s are actually monogenic or late onset T1s and although losing weight and diet/exercise helps it will only hold it back for some period of time. This is one of the reasons we have to continue to be monitored for up to 4 years according to professor taylor.
@jack412
As you know, most people don't change the way they eat when their diet finishes and eventually put back on the weight they lost. what I think is also important for us diabetics is to work out what we can happily eat for the rest of our lives and keep our weight healthy and our BG good. with that in mind I have chosen the LCHF way of eating for the rest of my life
http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
And thanks to your preaching about saturated fat ... I've changed my position and eating more and losing again on a temporary low cal diet.Me too!
It probably will not stay there for long. I have managed to get down to 3.2 but only for a few minutes when my liver decided to help me out.
So I wouldn't worry about 3.8.
Regarding knowing if the diabetes has been reversed - what should I be looking for exactly? Normal range levels all the time? After eating 'normal' food? For a particular period of time?
Reversing diabetes is a wonderful goal and I say GO FOR IT
But let us get real (and a lot of the posts above are very real).
I don't believe that MY diabetes is reversible.
I have 6 or 7 different contributing factors (weight, PCOS, 47 years of impaired glucose handling by my liver and pancreas, medication that causes insulin resistance, very wangy output from pituitary gland and family history of type 2 on both sides of family).
Losing weight ain't gonna cut it for me. I accept this. I do the best I can (diet, exercise, lifestyle changes, reading, learning, realistic goals)
And I am significantly more content accepting the reality of my personal situation than chasing a dream of dropping a few stone and being reborn as 'normal'.
I ain't been normal since I had my first hypo at 3 years old (and I wasn't overweight then)!
There is, to me no bigger a pain in the rear than someone who has achieved something such as giving up smoking, or losing lots of weight going round preaching to others. Particularly annoying is the well worn phrase "if I can do it anyone can". Makes me want to thump the person coming out with that one.
Pipp
Something that worries me, Brunneria, is that by posting information on my efforts to achieve the holy grail of diabetes reversal, is that for those folks who are not going to be able to do so it could be demoralising. There is, to me no bigger a pain in the rear than someone who has achieved something such as giving up smoking, or losing lots of weight going round preaching to others. Particularly annoying is the well worn phrase "if I can do it anyone can". Makes me want to thump the person coming out with that one. In reality, anyone who has achieved a good result at whatever, then well done to them, but they should not project their circumstances and experiences onto someone else.
Science doesn't have all the answers. Human beings are complicated, and what works for one could be damaging to another. I particularly admire your acceptance of the limitations in being able to "cure" your diabetes. Also, that you are pragmatic about your health, and proactive in keeping as well as you can through your exercise, diet, learning and goal setting etc. much more healthy than beating yourself up about not being able to have something that is no available to you.
Be well
Pipp
Oh Pipp, please don't feel you can't celebrate your success! I think it is marvellous, and you should shout it from the rafters.
We are all looking for the holy grail. It just so happens that we each have different holy grails. Lol.
Mine is ketosis. It's wonderful. I keep with LCHF, but the goal is always ketosis. I don't hit it all the time (much of the time), but that is my aim, and it is the only way I can be comfortable in my own body, avoid hypers and hypos, and maybe lose a bit of weight.
Sometimes I can't believe that everyone on this forum doesn't 'see the light' because it is so bloomin obvious to me that ketosis is 'the one true way'. Lol.
But of course it isn't - and I'm really grateful whenever anyone else finds their own grail AND shouts about it! Because there are other people out there who will find something useful in our experience.
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I'm regularly in the mid-3s and feel fine. I reckon my liver kicks in at 3.4, although I haven't proven this. I think provided you aren't on any potential hypo-inducing meds, and you feel fine, it's good to occasionally require the liver to cycle it's goodies,Yesterday BS after exercise on treadmill was 3.8. Lowest it has ever been. Is this actually too low?
I'm regularly in the mid-3s and feel fine. I reckon my liver kicks in at 3.4, although I haven't proven this. I think provided you aren't on any potential hypo-inducing meds, and you feel fine, it's good to occasionally require the liver to cycle it's goodies,
Thank you And Breathe - that's reassuring.
Pipp - I do not in any way mean to preach! Don't thump me! I have struggled with diets most of my adult life, and finally this one seems to work for me. I do worry that I will struggle to keep the weight off but I'll cross that bridge later and will continue with healthy eating and not return to my old ways. But, I also found out that my pituitary was not working properly and that was one of the reasons I was not losing weight despite my honest efforts. I am very sympathetic to others who have struggled in the same way. A new doctor who did a full battery of tests found that I needed medication as my body was producing far too much prolactin (levels at 800 rather then around 80-120!) which is what happens when you are pregnant - your body produces prolactin. However, medication brought it down quite quickly and now I am losing weight. He also discovered I was diabetic. So, perhaps anyone who is trying hard but not losing should ask for tests as there may be something undiagnosed going on.
Hey Paulins
I wouldn't thump you. I am a passive stalker! I am not aware that you have used the dreaded phrase that annoys. Also, I am too grateful to you for encouraging me to restart Newcastle to become aggressive towards you even if you had muttered those words.
Like yourself and one or two others, on here, I have a number of unusual medical conditions that impair me and also impact on my ability to lose weight. One is apparently known as an "orphan condition" as so few people are known to have it. ( Four or five in a million, which rather disappointed me as I always considered myself to be one in a million) LOL
it just goes to show that the medical profession, and others who assume fat people are to blame for their own medical problems can be way off the mark. It is just difficult to know what to be tested for.
Keep on keeping on.
Pipp
That's reassuring to me too. I am wondering how low to let my (T1) blood sugar go while I am in ketosis.I'm regularly in the mid-3s and feel fine. I reckon my liver kicks in at 3.4, although I haven't proven this. I think provided you aren't on any potential hypo-inducing meds, and you feel fine, it's good to occasionally require the liver to cycle it's goodies,
Good - I'd hate to annoy or discourage anyone. This forum has helped me beyond measure.
Apparently almost anything involved in the endocrine system can have an effect on weight if it starts misbehaving - so that's where the tests start. Mine did and I found I had two conditions - well, one syndrome and one disease. The former will never go away and I'll be on medication my whole life, but the latter allows me to try to take control and hope I can reverse it.
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