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Is no-one going to mention the BBC news report?

They don't like the LCHF message and are fighting back in big way. They have invested so much in their eat well plate do you really expect them to change?
If they catch people with working pancreases they may well be able to stave off diabetes in some? It is perverse they should do this now when so many have taken up low carb. The cost will be enormous and yet they begrudge giving out meters and strips! Bizarre!! Derek
 
dbr10 said:
I don't know. But it's 100 per cent in my case. < 9 st now.
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Probably not a meaningful statistic for them in that case. They're probably using the official statistics, which are around 85 to 90% of type 2 are overweight. So not exactly a stereotype, more of a fact in that context.
 
SunnyExpat said:
Probably not a meaningful statistic for them in that case. They're probably using the official statistics, which are around 85 to 90% of type 2 are overweight. So not exactly a stereotype, more of a fact in that context.
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Yes but the media does tend to ignore the others. I understand peoples' frustration in that case.
 
One statistic that did pop up however, was that 500 new diabetics are diagnosed daily. That's about 15,000 every month. Small wonder then that the NHS are a bit reluctant to give out BG meters.
 
nomoredonuts said:
One statistic that did pop up however, was that 500 new diabetics are diagnosed daily. That's about 15,000 every month. Small wonder then that the NHS are a bit reluctant to give out BG meters.
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but if we ha meters, we could self test and get control, and it would be cheaper in the long run?
 
What percentage of the 15,000 would correctly use the meter, make the lifestyle changes, and continue with the new lifestyle, as opposed to the percentage who simply sell the meter, and the strips, on ebay?
 
I think you would be surprised at just how many would like good eating advice (not the nice guidelines) and get a meter and strips.
 
SunnyExpat said:
What percentage of the 15,000 would correctly use the meter, make the lifestyle changes, and continue with the new lifestyle, as opposed to the percentage who simply sell the meter, and the strips, on ebay?
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We dont know - so why tar them all with the same brush? It would be simple to give people the meter and strips for a month, for example, and then review it, and ask for the meter back if they dont use it properly. Knowing the meter is on loan would stop these people selling them. How many of them do that anyway? I suspect it is only a few, or the market would be flooded. I know the meters couldnt be given to someone else, but it would stop the trafficking. Dont meter have some sort of notification or record on them of whether or not they have been used, and the figures? I am sure my dads meter did.
 
Enclave said:
I think you would be surprised at just how many would like good eating advice (not the nice guidelines) and get a meter and strips.
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I think you'd be more than surprised how the nice guidelines would improve many people's diets.
You really need to be out with those below the breadline, in third world countries, to appreciate how much of an improvement the nice guidelines are.
Then you need to get into the poorer areas of the UK, and see the habits formed, from necessity, and realise what a vast step up the nice guidelines are.
The abyss between the fortunate, and the not so fortunate is vaste.
Everywhere.
 
serenity648 said:
We dont know - so why tar them all with the same brush? It would be simple to give people the meter and strips for a month, for example, and then review it, and ask for the meter back if they dont use it properly. Knowing the meter is on loan would stop these people selling them. How many of them do that anyway? I suspect it is only a few, or the market would be flooded. I know the meters couldnt be given to someone else, but it would stop the trafficking. Dont meter have some sort of notification or record on them of whether or not they have been used, and the figures? I am sure my dads meter did.
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'Knowing the meter is on loan would stop these people selling them'
I can't think of any response, sorry.
 
SunnyExpat said:
I think you'd be more than surprised how the nice guidelines would improve many people's diets.
You really need to be out with those below the breadline, in third world countries, to appreciate how much of an improvement the nice guidelines are.
Then you need to get into the poorer areas of the UK, and see the habits formed, from necessity, and realise what a vast step up the nice guidelines are.
The abyss between the fortunate, and the not so fortunate is vaste.
Everywhere.
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Please don't make assumptions about me .. you don't know me or any of my personal experiences. If you think the eat well plate loaded with carbs is good for a T2 diabetes then you go for it. Personally the sooner the gov and Drs stop rolling out the eat more carbs advice for T2 diabetics the better.
 
Enclave said:
Please don't make assumptions about me .. you don't know me or any of my personal experiences. If you think the eat well plate loaded with carbs is good for a T2 diabetes then you go for it. Personally the sooner the gov and Drs stop rolling out the eat more carbs advice for T2 diabetics the better.
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I find it worst when people make assumptions that everyone can manage to choose their meals. I feel that is very sad. I also find it presumptuous that the same people imagine everyone actually has the access to doctors that we are so fortunate to have. But no, I don't know your experiences. Just your posts. The same as you, with me, really. So don't presume to tell me I'd be surprised, after all, I merely repeated the phrase you used, and yet it was offensive when it was said to you?
I'm sure your didn't mean to be offensive though.
 
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