Is this enough?

[Jenny 105]

For 6 days a week, it is the rule of my working dogs charity owners , that the dog must be out , off lead , running, sniffing and playing with other dogs. We have about 10 different walks from hills, to beachside, parks to country walks. So I get the same , mostly walking, some running or a short jog. Throwing and catching . Some flat , some up and down .

Is that sufficient ? for diabetes control not weight control . I weigh approx 53 kg

 

[lovinglife]

Any exercise is beneficial for anyone diabetes or not, I’m at the other end of the scale to you and very rarely get out and about or do much exercise due to home circumstances and my BG control is good, my last Hba1C test was 49 and I’m 14 years diagnosed with no meds so from my experience exercise isn’t essential, preferred but not essential. Sounds like you have a fun job

 

[Antje77]

Sounds amazing!

Is that sufficient ? for diabetes control not weight control . I weigh approx 53 kg

You can't outrun a bad diet though.
What does your glucose meter tell you? How is your hba1c?

While exercise is beneficial, it isn't needed to have good control with your diabetes.

 

[Jenny 105]

Sounds amazing!

You can't outrun a bad diet though.
What does your glucose meter tell you? How is your hba1c?

While exercise is beneficial, it isn't needed to have good control with your diabetes.

Good thought . Im having problems with the HBa1c. I take 100 metformin twice day plus 17 levemir once day. On this the test result was 44.
Too low the nurse said . You must be having hypos. I had been taking 4 - 6 fingerpricks a day (unbeknown to her). Nothing under 4.1 Highest 13 , mostly 7.5 -10s. Strange .
The levemir was put down to 15. The AbH1c test this time was 64 , with only am & pm readings, 8 rising up to 18. Mostly 10 - 13.
I'm now in conversation with another nurse about all of this.
The exercise question was to possibly assist these high readings.

 

[Jenny 105]

Any exercise is beneficial for anyone diabetes or not, I’m at the other end of the scale to you and very rarely get out and about or do much exercise due to home circumstances and my BG control is good, my last Hba1C test was 49 and I’m 14 years diagnosed with no meds so from my experience exercise isn’t essential, preferred but not essential. Sounds like you have a fun job

My wording wasnt good. I am severely deaf. I have a Sound Support dog who helps me with doorbell, alarm clock , smoke alarm etc (see piccy). The rule of Hearing Dogs , the charity who owns him is to go out and go off lead 1 hour every day for the dogs mental welfare. 1 day a dog walker takes him with her other dogs, 6 days I/hubby take Loki to a safe place to go off lead. We have to keep up with him , Labrador retriever, play ball , jog, for an hour, Park, hills, countryside , beach, sea front.... Im pleased youe life style , iabetes and diet can cope without exercise. As my mother used to say '' Horses for Courses''

 

[Antje77]

the test result was 44.
Too low the nurse said . You must be having hypos. I had been taking 4 - 6 fingerpricks a day (unbeknown to her). Nothing under 4.1 Highest 13 , mostly 7.5 -10s.

If you aren't having hypos, 44 isn't too low, it's a very healthy number for a diabetic on insulin, provided there aren't many lows!
But if your nurse didn't know you were testing a lot, she also had no way of knowing you didn't have hypos all the time.

 

[Jenny 105]

If you aren't having hypos, 44 isn't too low, it's a very healthy number for a diabetic on insulin, provided there aren't many lows!
But if your nurse didn't know you were testing a lot, she also had no way of knowing you didn't have hypos all the time.

She doesnt listen . Ive only been 2 1/4 yrs into this. About 9m ago I did have a few lows, absolutely no symptoms. Hubby said he detected nothing. But it frightened me ...... UNTIL the monitor started playing up. I popped into the Gp reception . The staff swopped it for new but didnt log the swop. No lows since then, but no one will believe that is what happened. It was since the false lows that i began testing regularly, and sometimes careful snacking.
PS On 17 my weight went from 42 kg to around 52 kg, . On 15 its approx 46Kg. Im sending a chart from Aug and a chart from this week to the other Nurse for her to digest. And once more spell out that the Practice staff changed the old monitor for different new monitor . NO LOWS since that swop.

 

[JoKalsbeek]

She doesnt listen . Ive only been 2 1/4 yrs into this. About 9m ago I did have a few lows, absolutely no symptoms. Hubby said he detected nothing. But it frightened me ...... UNTIL the monitor started playing up. I popped into the Gp reception . The staff swopped it for new but didnt log the swop. No lows since then, but no one will believe that is what happened. It was since the false lows that i began testing regularly, and sometimes careful snacking.
PS On 17 my weight went from 42 kg to around 52 kg, . On 15 its approx 46Kg. Im sending a chart from Aug and a chart from this week to the other Nurse for her to digest. And once more spell out that the Practice staff changed the old monitor for different new monitor . NO LOWS since that swop.

At 2 and a quarter years of type 2 diabetes, I'm a little surprised you're on insulin. Was there a reason to go that route? (Eating disorders, required steroids for other conditions and the like, might make it a more sensible choice, so I'm not judging here!) Like you said, courses for horses... For a lot of T2's here, following a diet low in carbohydrates is enough to get blood sugars back into the normal or pre-diabetic range. Dunno if you ever considered it, but it might merit looking into, just in case. Most carbs turn to glucose once ingested, so the less you have of those, the less your body has to cope with.

Alas, there's no formula that would consistently work well enough to be able to answer your original question. The duration and intensity of the walks would have to be measured against what you ate, what other medication you're on, how insulin resistant/insensitive you are, whether you had a good night's sleep or not, etc, etc. There's far too many variables. What we do know is that for a T2 diabetic, walks are just about the best way to move about: it's not so strenuous it'll cause a liver glucose dump, and it'll help with getting your blood sugars down for hours afterwards. But it's not an exact science, so... Can't give a sensible answer there. But it won't be bad for you, is the bottom line. Just hope you don't end up a little low due to it, but with the sensor, I think you've got those bases covered as well.

Sorry not to be of more use!
Jo

 

[Jenny 105]

At 2 and a quarter years of type 2 diabetes, I'm a little surprised you're on insulin. Was there a reason to go that route? (Eating disorders, required steroids for other conditions and the like, might make it a more sensible choice, so I'm not judging here!) Like you said, courses for horses... For a lot of T2's here, following a diet low in carbohydrates is enough to get blood sugars back into the normal or pre-diabetic range. Dunno if you ever considered it, but it might merit looking into, just in case. Most carbs turn to glucose once ingested, so the less you have of those, the less your body has to cope with.

Alas, there's no formula that would consistently work well enough to be able to answer your original question. The duration and intensity of the walks would have to be measured against what you ate, what other medication you're on, how insulin resistant/insensitive you are, whether you had a good night's sleep or not, etc, etc. There's far too many variables. What we do know is that for a T2 diabetic, walks are just about the best way to move about: it's not so strenuous it'll cause a liver glucose dump, and it'll help with getting your blood sugars down for hours afterwards. But it's not an exact science, so... Can't give a sensible answer there. But it won't be bad for you, is the bottom line. Just hope you don't end up a little low due to it, but with the sensor, I think you've got those bases covered as well.

Sorry not to be of more use!
Jo

About my diets. Notes welcome
Breakfast Egg 4x a week. Ix Nimble. 1 Luvlife seeded bread. 2 x fish. 1 x chickpeas mixed with a few baked beans. 100mls cranberry juice with water. 1/4 of an orange. Tea
Lunch I buy a joint (chicken, beef, pork) making 3 meals . Roast, cold, homemade eg stir fry. Handful of ;type of potato.;Or Quinoa, ;Wholemeal rice or wholemeal pasta. 2 -3 x veg of various types. Afters Forest fruits, with no sugar tog; stewed apple or pear, no sugar, kvarg mixed with yog. fruit salad.
Tea Salad, green items, tom, cucumber, watercress, pomegrnate seed, ham, or corned beef, or sardine, or mini pork pie, or cheese, Or something on toast 2nd course similar to lunch. Or Grenade protein bar , or lo sugar cereal.
Occasionally John Burts sour cream chips, 50ml lowest sugar ice cream, Add ons milled nuts and seeds , cacoa nibs, fruit satsuma, small apple
Wetherall lo sugar toffee (questionable on carbs ?)
; Having had virtually no advice on what to eat I still dont know if Im doing the best things

 

[Jenny 105]

Sounds amazing!

You can't outrun a bad diet though.
What does your glucose meter tell you? How is your hba1c?

While exercise is beneficial, it isn't needed to have good control with your diabetes.

see my reply above to Jokalsbeek post re diet . Notes welcome

 

[JoKalsbeek]

So you're on insulin, but no-one talked to you about nutrition? Can I then assume you're on a fixed dose? Because I can go over your food choices, but if you cut the carbs, you are likely to need to lower your dosage. So be forewarned, some adjustments might need to be made. Test, test, and test again. Also, what I can tolerate may not be something you can, and vice versa, so always check whether a meal agreed with you. We can make educated guesses on what is likely to spike someone due to the carb content, but we won't know by how much. A regular white roll can up me to 22, for instance, someone else might have a blip to 8,5... We're all different, which is why we're so adamant on the testing thing. Everything I've deleted from your list seems fine to me, but I'm not always familiar with your brands.

1 x chickpeas mixed with a few baked beans would be too starchy/carby for quite a few here. Some can get away with it, some can't. Certainly worth checking. test before the meal and 2 hours after the first bite. You're looking for a rise of no more and preferably less than 2.0 mmol/l.

100mls cranberry juice with water can hit the system with a hard spike, 100mls of unsweetened juice containing 13 grams of carbs which are quickly absorbed due to their liquid state.


1/4 of an orange isn't much, but personally I wouldn't go there.

Handful of ;type of potato.;Or Quinoa, ;Wholemeal rice or wholemeal pasta. All of these are high in carbs. I'll steal a fry off my husband every now and again, but that's as far as that goes. Haven't had the rest of any of those these past 7 years. Really worth testing to see how you respond. Possible alternatives: cauliflower or broccoli-rice, konjac noodles.

Afters Forest fruits, with no sugar tog; stewed apple or pear, no sugar, kvarg mixed with yog. fruit salad. If with forest fruits you mean berries, those are usually fine in moderation. And apple or pear would spike me, though if you have it with yog you might slow down the spike with the fats in that. Fruit salad I wouldn't dare touch, especially if there's stuff in there like grapes and the like... Those are kryptonite.

pomegranate seed might be a bit much, depends wholly on how much you have. A whole one would be about 25 grams of sugar.

mini pork pie might be problematic due to the crust and fillers used.

Or something on toast <-- regular toast or the excellent low carb bread you mentioned before?
lo sugar cereal, no idea which one it is, home made or a keto brand, but usually, cereals are grain or corn based, and those'll spike whether there's sugar added or no.

John Burts sour cream chips, ....which are almost 60 grams of carbs per 100 grams. That's a lot.


50ml lowest sugar ice cream Which brand would that be? Oppo and such'd be absolutely fine.

satsuma, small apple ...are both too sugary for my taste, but might not be for you.

Wetherall lo sugar toffee (questionable on carbs ?) If you mean Werthers, there are some carbs in there, but those are from artificial sweeteners that don't actually end up in the bloodstream, they go out the backdoor like they came in, ergo undigested. Which is why it can bring on the runs, on top of some types being toxic to gut flora... Don't overdo it and you should be fine though.

Hope this helps some! In the end, you choose how to handle this, just be very careful if you make changes, what with the medication you're on. Right now you eat in a day what I probably don't put away, carb-wise, in a full week. But that's what works for me, it might not be the case for you. https://josekalsbeek.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-nutritional-thingy.html might help some as well. Just please, do test your heart out. We don't want you hitting hypo's.
Good luck,
Jo