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Is Type-1 Reversible ?

Robinredbreast said:
The human race produce's insulin from the pancreas ! Do these fanatics not realise this, but we became Type 1 because our own bodies attacked the organ and destroyed it so no more insulin:banghead: Scary to read :-o
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Scary to read indeed...
 
Yes there is a type 1 diabetic who has cured his diabetes and saved his leg from gangrene!

Here are some links -

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/12/25/can-meditation-cure-disease.html


I personally am not on his level yet, but after changing my diet and lifestyle i have dropped my insulin intake significantly!

A raw vegan diet has done wonders for me although im not exercising enough, i still have a good hb1ac at 7.0.

My goals are to start meditating an hour day and exercise about the same amount.

I have managed to quit drinking and smoking so the next step shouldnt be too difficult i hope, ill keep you posted either way.

Wish me luck
 
jono m said:
Yes there is a type 1 diabetic who has cured his diabetes and saved his leg from gangrene!

Here are some links -

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/12/25/can-meditation-cure-disease.html


I personally am not on his level yet, but after changing my diet and lifestyle i have dropped my insulin intake significantly!et

A raw vegan diet has done wonders for me although im not exercising enough, i still have a good hb1ac at 7.0.

My goals are to start meditating an hour day and exercise about the same amount.

I have managed to quit drinking and smoking so the next step shouldnt be too difficult i hope, ill keep you posted either way.

Wish me luck
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Plenty of things can reduce insulin requirement in a Type 1 diabetic. That is light years away from curing or reversing Type 1 diabetes.

I have to say the Daily Beast is not a reliable source for any kind of news, let alone biology or health science. DB deliberately courts controversy to drive clicks.

I accept that high level Tibetan adepts can do some pretty surreal and impressive things. But that is hardly a repeatable procedure for ordinary people. And, as I said in the other post, there is no mention of this Rinpoche having Type 1. I know from personal experience that meditation can improve Type 1 by reducing insulin requirements. Claiming meditation can cure Type 1 diabetes is another matter altogether. And this Rinpoche is not doing ordinary meditation. He is doing some extremely advanced internal practice that probably takes twenty years to learn, if you are brought up as Tibetan monk and have pretty much nothing else to do except practice.
 
Sometimes, to argue the point of T1 reversals or cures is to give credence to it. Occasionally, silence speaks better than words :-)
 
Jono M - got to agree with Spiker on this one-Rinpoche said he ate a normal diet, there was no mention of exercise and he did nothing but meditate all day. So first of all, if you're saying he successfully reversed his diabetes and you're getting there by improving your diet, that makes no sense because Rinpoche didn't make any changes to his diet so you have no evidence what you're doing will cure you, as was already mentioned a reduced insulin intake is not a cure. Secondly, I can't find any evidence that Rinpoche was type 1... Type 2 diabetes is reversible, which wasn't the question. Plus if he WAS type 2, and he HAD improved his diet and exercised more, that STILL isn't a cure for diabetes because if it was cured you would be able to eat what you like without a change in blood sugar. An altered lifestyle is a possible successful treatment of diabetes, it isn't a cure.
However, I'd still like to wish you the best of luck in improving your health, it sounds like you already have much to be proud of, so well done :)
 
Spiker said:
Plenty of things can reduce insulin requirement in a Type 1 diabetic. That is light years away from curing or reversing Type 1 diabetes.

I have to say the Daily Beast is not a reliable source for any kind of news, let alone biology or health science. DB deliberately courts controversy to drive clicks.

I accept that high level Tibetan adepts can do some pretty surreal and impressive things. But that is hardly a repeatable procedure for ordinary people. And, as I said in the other post, there is no mention of this Rinpoche having Type 1. I know from personal experience that meditation can improve Type 1 by reducing insulin requirements. Claiming meditation can cure Type 1 diabetes is another matter altogether. And this Rinpoche is not doing ordinary meditation. He is doing some extremely advanced internal practice that probably takes twenty years to learn, if you are brought up as Tibetan monk and have pretty much nothing else to do except practice.
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Yip you are right the video and the article do not state that he is type 1, apologies for stating otherwise.

But that being said it doesnt say he is type 2 either.

Yes he is a Rinpoche but still a human being and I would'nt consider him more superior than you or I.

It will take time, hard work and a ton of discipline, but what is the worst thing that can happen?

You still living with diabetes but with a healthier body and cleaner mind.

Anyway im gonna give it a shot, ive tried meditating a couple of times and i can see its gonna take a while lol...
 
Selim Melen said:
Hello everyone,

I read many books about diabetes.
One of them says that "EVEN TYPE-1 DIABETE IS REVERSIBLE" and body can return its normal glucose levels.

I dont believe that "TYPE-1 IS REVERSIBLE"

Is there anyone who has stories that "TYPE-1 IS REVERSIBLE"

Thanks
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Hi Selim I found 2 more videos for you i hope this helps and inspires you as it did for me.

These two are type 1 by the way.



If you are waiting for a magic pill that may be a while, in my opinion we should take responsibility for our health now.

Even if that pill comes out, you may be able to carry on drinking, smoking and eating junk without needing an insulin shot! But what about heart disease or any other disease that can be avoided?

J
 
This 'Dr' Kirt Tyson is a naturopath - in the interview he's just qualified. Note in the interview he dodges the direct question of if he's off insulin, the interviewer says it, not him. If you dig through his blog history a different story emerges. He was originally diagnosed Type 2 and then told of a "low' C-peptide result 6 years later. He looks to me more of a classic case of a Type 2 moving toward insulin therapy due to poor control. So he reversed that trend with diet. Good for him. But there are no miracles there.

The closest we are able to get to any proof of this reversal, we have to pay $30 to watch a video produced by what looks like a very aggressive marketing organisation. OK here is a simple test. People who actually find a cure for something, like Prof Taylor, spread the good news for free. People who are cynically trying to make money of the vulnerable hide behind cryptic comments with no evidence, and charge for the privilege of telling you their "secret".
 
Heard an interesting interview with Sayer Ji today on the Reversing Diabetes Online Summit. He runs the greenmedinfo site - he basically combs the pubmed site for information on real food and alternative supplement research papers and cross-indexes them on his site. He has quite an interesting selection on beta cell regeneration for those interested in checking it out:

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/keyword/beta-cell-regeneration

In the interview one of the things he talked about was c-peptide and its protective role re. various diabetic complications (neuropathies, beta cell regeneration) and mentioned a new study about flax seed oil helping with c-peptide production. The really scary part was where he said (at least for the US, not sure about elsewhere) was that not only is c-peptide not included in manufactured insulins, but that they are produced from GMO yeast. I think that's the first time I'd heard that piece of information.
 
Indy51 said:
Heard an interesting interview with Sayer Ji today on the Reversing Diabetes Online Summit. He runs the greenmedinfo site - he basically combs the pubmed site for information on real food and alternative supplement research papers and cross-indexes them on his site. He has quite an interesting selection on beta cell regeneration for those interested in checking it out:

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/keyword/beta-cell-regeneration

In the interview one of the things he talked about was c-peptide and its protective role re. various diabetic complications (neuropathies, beta cell regeneration) and mentioned a new study about flax seed oil helping with c-peptide production. The really scary part was where he said (at least for the US, not sure about elsewhere) was that not only is c-peptide not included in manufactured insulins, but that they are produced from GMO yeast. I think that's the first time I'd heard that piece of information.
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Yeah insulin was really the poster child of the whole GM revolution. It was more or less the first commercial product of GM. Humulin in 1978, followed by other synthetic human insulins (genetically identical), then followed by the genetically altered human insulin analogs like lispro and aspart that we use today.
 
Spiker said:
Yeah insulin was really the poster child of the whole GM revolution. It was more or less the first commercial product of GM. Humulin in 1978, followed by other synthetic human insulins (genetically identical), then followed by the genetically altered human insulin analogs like lispro and aspart that we use today.
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Kind of makes it difficult to be a diabetic and be against GM, and more or less impossible to be a diabetic, a vegetarian, and against GM. :)
 
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Some insulins are made from modified e coli;) http://www.diabetesforecast.org/2013/jul/making-insulin.html


The trouble with most of those papers is that everyone I looked at was using mice or rats that have been made diabetic by injecting streptomycin I'm no expert on this but I gather you can have these mice in T1 and T2 varieties. In the T1 type they use a large dose (100mg), the only paper I found that had a dosage only used 60mg. I also think since these mice have lost their beta cells by an entirely different process to T1 that they aren't necessarily good models for regeneration.

There was a good slide in the recent coursera course which demonstrates the problem. Indeed, the lecturer, Prof Ole Dragsbaek Madsen. who also works as a senior scientist at Novo Nordisk said quite categorically
'we know that beta cells do not come back once they have been destroyed by the immune system'..
You can see that in a person who is overweight but doesn't have diabetes the beta cell mass is larger, if they develop T2, cells will be killed off through gluco/lipo toxicity but at least at this stage, there are still a fair number left (compare with non diabetic, normal weight) In LADA there are very few and in T1 hardly anything is left.
beta cell mass.JPG

The lecturer who works in part for Novo was explaining how far they have got on in producing islets from stem cells. They can consistently produce them (fascinating as the cells have to go through all the processes from undifferentiated cell to gut cells to budding off to form a pancreatic cells to islet cells of which some are beta cells. It takes 15-18 days in vitro. They can do this but I got the impression that it's not yet a totally faultfreee procedure,
They will have to encapsulate the cells so that they can be removed if necessary and so that they won't be attacked or rejected by the immune system.
Then they have to test them out in large mammals like pigs before they can think of trialling them on people. Then they have to be able to build a safe production facility. So though they are getting there, there are still big hurdles.
 
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