You said it exactly there has to be two sides for a debate the for and against but that rarely happens here anything mentioned in the news shown on TV or even on here that is not about low carb for diabetics is instantly condemned as being wrong exactly as the liquid diet was from the programme.... so no debate here on that it was all negativeI agree that we each must find an approach that suits us as individuals. Where I disagree with you is the point you make about being excluded from making any criticism due to the lack of qualifications. It is unhealthy, I feel, to attempt to shut down debate because the whole point is to argue for and against etc.
Even the leading experts of particular fields argue, criticize and debate.
Are you still with us @Guzzler? Do you need help? Should we call an ambulance?
In the first section before the advertisements last night, the 'experts' said 1) Exercise is crucial for tackling diabetes, and 2) Calories are everything.
I had visions of your head exploding. Are you okay?
You said it exactly there has to be two sides for a debate the for and against but that rarely happens here anything mentioned in the news shown on TV or even on here that is not about low carb for diabetics is instantly condemned as being wrong exactly as the liquid diet was from the programme.... so no debate here on that it was all negative
My hbac1 was 56 so this was of great interest to me. I feel the program has caused me false hopeThe two who went on the two week 18/6 hour and 1800/600 calorie diets and reduced their HbA1cs were celebrity chef Rosemary Shrager and the doctor/comedian Paul Sinha.
I don't understand how they could have greatly reduced their HbA1c figures in just two weeks. Doesn't it take 8-12 weeks for red blood cells to be replaced?
My hbac1 was 56 so this was of great interest to me. I feel the program has caused me false hope
Thank you GuzzlerMy A1c was 98. There is a shed load of hope, lass. My last A1c was 43. Keep at it, it is very early days for you and you are tackling this condition and will reap the rewards. Take it steady.
Thank you Guzzler
I do think the rapid weight loss I had initially helped via LCHF diet worked ( about approx 20 lbs) , although recently my weight loss is really slow- 2 lbs a week if I’m lucky
I’ve written it all up on my blog:
https://pescatarianketoformytype1diabetes.wordpress.com/2018/06/14/fish-chips/
Aw, thank you. I like fannying about in the kitchen, so if I can share that and make it simple for others to make food they enjoy (without too much faff), I’m one happy bunnyI'm not much of a cook but this makes me want to make an effort to learn! I have shared on my fb page.. Your blog is great thank you for sharing! Whilst I've been low carb for years I eat pretty much the same things on a weekly basis. I really need to change it up!
Diabetes dietitian
Wow the passion in your posts is so up-lifting, I wish we could do one massive XPERT Health programme. I am a facilitator for the XPERT Health diabetes education programme and the low carb lifestyle WORKS for those who want control of this condition.
Did you see the BBC programme "The Truth about Carbs"? I thought it was in a different class, what was your opinion?
I do think the rapid weight loss I had initially helped via LCHF diet worked ( about approx 20 lbs) , although recently my weight loss is really slow- 2 lbs a week if I’m lucky
You are doing well @Petaluk if you are now getting readings between 4-7. And a weight loss of up to 2 lbs a week is good too.My hbac1 was 56 so this was of great interest to me. I feel the program has caused me false hope
It also took me 3 weeks after this reading to get my bg between 4-7
I do like that! I've bookmarked and will def use for inspiration. Thank you.without too much faff
Well really it is not about the number of people a certain diet works for. Yes low carb works we know that but because we are all individuals there will always be exceptions that for many reasons it is not suitable. If any other diet works for a person who can't do low carb but have found another way then that can only be good. We can't totally slam a diet as being wrong just because it is not what we do no diet is wrong if it works for someone.To put it bluntly, if 100 people do this "almost starvation diet" and 48 of them meet the end point criteria where does that leave the remaining 52 people? It is not going to be popular with them.
Well really it is not about the number of people a certain diet works for. Yes low carb works we know that but because we are all individuals there will always be exceptions that for many reasons it is not suitable. If any other diet works for a person who can't do low carb but have found another way then that can only be good. We can't totally slam a diet as being wrong just because it is not what we do no diet is wrong if it works for someone.
I agree with you. As I said, we must each find our own path but that does not mean we cannot debate the merits or disadvantages of diets other than the one that works for us as individuals. ND is not a new concept after all and has been debated ad infinitum.
Indeed the debate over use of low calorie versus low carb diets was raging over one hundred years ago. The consensus then, which was based on the research methods of the time, which no doubt wouldn't directly stand up to the rigor of today, was that in general a low calorie treatment didn't have a universally observed benefit over low carb and was on the whole less palatable, but a few individuals were more responsive to it. I have yet to see any modern research that really contradicts this conclusion at a more detailed level.
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