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Just diagnosed but no info given

wheelabout

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Saw GP yesterday as been unwell a while blood sugar was 28.2 and urine full of sugar

So of trotted for blood test and no one surprised by levels back to see GP later where level now 22.3
He started me on 500mg of metformin with plans to raise to three times a day and he said will book me into see diabetic nurse at clinic and refer to hospital as I'm a paraplegic that already has nerve issues

But that was all the info I got and he said he probably contact me Friday ashe off today

Took tablet last night but ugh stomach ache and been sick couple times this morning and no appetite weight loss be a breeze at this rate
Fasting sugar is 18.2 so know still high but do I just keep going and wait see if drop
 
Hi
Did you take the metformin with food? It does have a horrid tendency to cause upset stomach. I cannot take at all as it gives me explosive diarrhoea.
Look at what you are eating and start cutting out all sugary things and starchy stuff like bread , pasta etc. Then look at the threads on this forum . Any refined carbs will quickly turn to sugar. Do not panic but steadily look at your diet.
Get a blood glucose monitor code free and tee2 are the cheapest and find out what carbs cause your biggest spikes.
Start slowly ang make changes and you will see a difference.
 
Thank you yes took it with food was about the only thing he did tell me about but the sickness this morning is not nice at all

No clue at what point it could be a problem being high as this morning was over 18 after fasting

Yes am reading forum and gave access to monitor as my son has one for unrelated endocrine issues
and it was how spotted had a problem as I decided to test randomly as had lightbulb moment
 
Saw GP yesterday as been unwell a while blood sugar was 28.2 and urine full of sugar

So of trotted for blood test and no one surprised by levels back to see GP later where level now 22.3
He started me on 500mg of metformin with plans to raise to three times a day and he said will book me into see diabetic nurse at clinic and refer to hospital as I'm a paraplegic that already has nerve issues

But that was all the info I got and he said he probably contact me Friday ashe off today

Took tablet last night but ugh stomach ache and been sick couple times this morning and no appetite weight loss be a breeze at this rate
Fasting sugar is 18.2 so know still high but do I just keep going and wait see if drop
Hi @wheelabout .. and welcome
I was in a similar position as you when I was diagnosed T2 about 4 weeks ago .. shocked, a bit scared, no real idea of what was happening to me and lots of questions. Since joining this forum, though, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. @daisy1 will be along soon with a wealth of information for you

Managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing seems to be the best way forward. For me, committing to an LCHF lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day, seems to be working .. I have lost 8.7kg since my diagnosis and my BG levels are down from 12.5 to around 6. There is a wealth of info about LCHF on the forum .. and a wealth of relevant advice and positive support.

I have been OK with Metformin but it can cause problems for some people. As @DevonVee says, try taking it with or immediately after food .. but talk to your Doc about this

You may also find the following posts useful ...
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/taking-the-driving-seat.116651/
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/what-to-expect.117018/page-2#post-1399186
Hope this helps
 
The metformin will only slowly reduce your blood sugar as it is supposed to increase insulin sensitivity. It will not bring it down dramatically. Cutting bad carbs will have a much faster impact.
Also in the morning some people get a liver dump of glucose called dawn phenomenon which is to get you up and hunting for your breakfast. Eat something like a full fat yoghurt with some berries and you should see it fall.
Can be high depending on what you ate last night.
 
@wheelabout sorry you have joined the club. As DevonVee states, do take the metformin with food, and don't up the dosage until your stomache settles with it, and if it doesn't go back to the Dr and request the slow release version, - it's a bit kinder
 
@wheelabout

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope it helps you. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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I gave up the Metformin - it was just too dreadful in its side effects and consequences - I have just eaten a low carb diet, and it seems to be something I can live with very happily. I gave up the statin too - it has really done a lot of damage to my memory and intellect.
Without doing anything very difficult day by day my Hba1c level is below the level I'd be considered diabetic if it had been the first one. As it was the second one I will probably continue to be monitored, but my doctor has put 'no further action' on my notes.
 
Thank you for reply unfortunately I became unwell and ended up in hospital on IV to try stsbliase blood sugar's

They stopped the metformin and switched me to glycoside? See if I can tolerate that better
 
Is it gliclazide they switched you to? That's a sulfonylurea - one of the group of drugs which push your pancreas to work harder. Short term it can be very effective at getting your BG down. Long term it can wear your pancreas out.

How have you been getting on with diet changes? They are the way to go, IMO, even if you still need some medication to help. No medication for T2 is as powerful as restricting carbs.
 
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