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https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...s-raises-risk-early-death-large-harvard-study
that makes it clear, for now.
that makes it clear, for now.
Hmm in the abstract they lump trans fats in with saturated fats which worries me slightly ( a lot). Plus the Guardian has form for quite bad health reporting..
Full ahead on the Mediterranean diet, low carb, healthy unsaturated fats.
I've yet to see anyone claim that's bad for you.
Zoe Harcombe has a discussion on this groups findings. The newspaper may have got things not quite correct. The Harvard group didn't like the BMJ article.D.
Just google Harvard chan bmj It was in 13th April this year for Harvard I think bmj article was also in April google Ramsden Bmj April . I can't seem to pick up the links on my cheap phone.D.Which BMJ article?
I wish journalists could get their offing grammar right on something like this:
"More importantly, they say, they found that death rates dropped by between 11% and 19% among people who substituted saturated fats such as butter, lard and red meat for unsaturated fats such as olive oil, canola oil and soybean oil."
If you substitute x for y, it means you used to use y, but now you use x. This sentence is a*se over t*t. It says exactly the opposite of what the research concluded.[/QUOTE
it's all rubbish. fat is good for you. all low fat produce like margarine tubs, yogurts, etc... etc... and all the other low fat faddy **** is all ******** and the majority of people in this country are brainwashed by the media, and corporate manipulation. wake up, start making your own choices, and stop relying on the neighbour or the tv diet guru to tell you how you should live an eat. most health problems today, are related to all the snacky **** most people eat. eating healthy, is not avoiding fat.
Give them time....Full ahead on the Mediterranean diet, low carb, healthy unsaturated fats.
I've yet to see anyone claim that's bad for you.
Give them time....
I agree, @SunnyExpat natural fats are good for you, Avacado, Olive oil, butter, lard, dripping, fat in fish and meat, un-natural manufactured fats are bad for you, vegetable oil, corn oil, margarine, shortening etc etc.
And did you know that the 'Mediterranean diet' was actually invented by a Greek doctor to promote one of the country's most important cash crops, and preserve the way of life of traditional villagers? Which part of the Med are they referring to, do you think?
Not that I'm disagreeing with you on the wonderful properties of Olive oil, we buy at least 20 litres a year from our desert Olive Press, best quality, thick, gloopy and flavoursome, never been anywhere near a factory, for I'm a 'sunny ex pat' too!
People should really stop worrying about all this industry sponsored observational studies, they are not worth the paper they are printed on!
I prefer Base over Apex, or as my son used to say Ipesway overI wish journalists could get their offing grammar right on something like this:
"More importantly, they say, they found that death rates dropped by between 11% and 19% among people who substituted saturated fats such as butter, lard and red meat for unsaturated fats such as olive oil, canola oil and soybean oil."
If you substitute x for y, it means you used to use y, but now you use x. This sentence is a*se over t*t. It says exactly the opposite of what the research concluded.
Think this is the BMJ article Apr 2016Just google Harvard chan bmj It was in 13th April this year for Harvard I think bmj article was also in April google Ramsden Bmj April . I can't seem to pick up the links on my cheap phone.D.