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I made my first visit to the doctor in 20-odd years a couple of weeks ago for a general check-up on reaching 50+ years old. It was at the request of my wife. She was, until a couple of years ago, a receptionist at the surgery and frankly nagged me into agreeing to a visit, despite my feeling a bit of a fraud and a time-waster.

We'd been on a brief holiday and I'd pretty much forgotten all about the blood test results I was supposed to phone up for. So I got a call from my doctor yesterday evening and everything was absolutely fine except he reported I have Type 2. OK, I thought, no major problem - just lay off the cakes & puddings etc.

I really had no idea what diabetes entails, but during the course of today I have found out. My doctor has called back and told to me to collect a couple of prescriptions urgently to start medication right away, even though he says I haven't been affected for very long. No idea how he worked that out, but I'm sure he knows what's what.

So here I am, at the start of a journey that will last the rest of my life. I was a bit dazed at first, but now just grateful for my wife's persistence and the reassurance that it's been caught early and anyway at my age the news could have been much much worse.

Also very glad to find this forum...
 

yoda

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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hello, I can see a similarity in your story ! Good luck ! The next few months will see you have all sorts of tests . The hardest thing I find is not eating sweet food ,your dietician will advise on a balanced regular diet , low Glycemic index foods ......... Shopping trips are never the same , my wife and I have a trolley each now ! hah ! All the best!
 

daisy1

Legend
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Cruelty towards animals.
Hi David and welcome to the forum :)
There is a lot to learn at first and being a member of this forum will help you to find out all about this. Here is the information we give to new members which I am sure you will find very helpful. In addition, ask all the questions you want as someone will be able to reply.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS


Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 
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Hi Daisy, Hi Yoda,

Thanks for the welcome and your kind encouragement. It's been less than 48 hours and I'm just starting to understand what this all entails! Lots to learn I guess...

David
 

xyzzy

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Other
Treatment type
Diet only
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Undeserving authority figures of all kinds and idiots.
Hello David and welcome to the forum.

It's difficult getting to grips with everything you need to know so here's what I did. I was diagnosed T2D in December last year and using the advice I found on this site I got my blood sugar levels back to normal within around a couple of months or so and I have also normalised my cholesterol levels and blood pressure as well. I have now lost 3 stone in weight too. What I and others have done is NOT a cure as I still have to be vary careful about what I eat however it has put me back in control and I feel the best I have done in years. I went to see my doctor last week and he is very pleased how I am getting on and has advised me to keep doing what I have been doing since it's obviously working really well.

Diet wise its really easy. Just drastically cut down or better cut out all things with plain sugar, so biscuits, cakes, sugar in tea and coffee, pure fruit juices, non diet versions of soft drinks. Next and really importantly try halving starchy foods like rice, pasta, potatoes, bread, cereals and any other flour based products. Replace what's now missing with extra meat, fish, eggs, cheese and especially vegetables. Vegetables that grow above ground are best although most of us find carrots fine. Things like yoghurt are fine as is a small amount of fresh fruit. I find the ones that end in "berry" are the best. If you don't mind artificial sweeteners things like Diet Coke are fine to drink. On the starchy foods that are left try swapping to brown basmati rice instead of white and brown or tri-colour pasta. The bread that most recommend is actually Bergen soya bread but some do ok with wholemeal as well.

The above diet is close to one you would be one recommended to try by the Swedish Health service. It was introduced in that country last year and the American health service and several other countries health services recommend something very similar for Type 2 diabetics. In the UK the diet guidelines are now over 30 years old and are only gradually being updated. As the UK is lagging behind you may find what I and other forum members recommend will be different to what your are told is a good diet for you follow.

Next most members would recommend you test your own blood sugar levels. Did your doctor give you a meter and strips? Some do and some don't. It's a bit of a post code lottery and we find some progressive surgeries are pro testing and others anti. I'll warn you the anti ones can sometimes be very vocally anti!

The reason testing is important is you should try and keep your blood sugars below 8ish two hours after eating any meal. Above the 8 value is where the dangers of complications do begin to occur according to diabetic experts. So if you can't test how will you now if what you are eating is keeping you safe? The problem is every diabetic is different so my earlier advice to halve starchy foods is just a rough guide. You may find you need to eat less than half (like me) or that you can eat more than half like others.

As you get into it all and read around the forum you may see people talking about carb counting. If you want to understand what that is just ask. It is a powerful weapon that a diabetic can use to control their condition and one that many of us use to great effect.

Good luck and keep asking questions.

PS Here's two good links about what's good to eat.

First is the lady doctor who's low carb / low GI recommendations seem to form the basis of what's recommended in Sweden

http://blogg.passagen.se/dahlqvistannika/?anchor=my_lowcarb_dietary_programe_in

Second is a good beginners guide to low carb regimes that are excellent for reducing blood sugar levels and losing weight.

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
 

chocoholicnomore

Well-Known Member
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi David and welcome to the forum.

You'll find out everything you need to know, and more, on here. Everyone is so friendly and helpful. The best thing I did on diagnosis was to join here.

Good luck with it all
 

lucylocket61

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Hello David :wave: Welcome. The info on here is great and people are so helpful. I was diagnosed nearly 3 months ago, felt overwhelmed and stuff, and people had lots of advice and support to give. There is lots to learn, but you will learn it and feel a whole lot better soon.
 
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Many thanks to all for the kind encouragement and warm welcome. Also thanks for the all the good advice. I really appreciate it.

I can't see my doctor for another couple of weeks so it's really helpful to find a place for immediate support.

D.