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Franz26

Franz26

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Hi everybody I'm new hear and it was almost two years ago when I was 17 since I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes. I'm currently taking 15 units of a slow acting insulin pen(Is it ok to mention like the name o brand?pls let me know). This pandemic was a real struggle since I can't help but over eat in times of stressful situations. Anyways how have you guys been? I'm hoping to get along with you all.
 
Franz26 said:
Hi everybody I'm new hear and it was almost two years ago when I was 17 since I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes. I'm currently taking 15 units of a slow acting insulin pen(Is it ok to mention like the name o brand?pls let me know). This pandemic was a real struggle since I can't help but over eat in times of stressful situations. Anyways how have you guys been? I'm hoping to get along with you all.
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Hi. Nice to meet you. This is a wonderful group of people. All so helpful. x
 
They talked me into going to a and e the other day and possibly saved my life. I can’t thank them all enough. Any questions don’t be afraid to ask. Stay safe xx
 
Franz26 said:
Hi everybody I'm new hear and it was almost two years ago when I was 17 since I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes. I'm currently taking 15 units of a slow acting insulin pen(Is it ok to mention like the name o brand?pls let me know). This pandemic was a real struggle since I can't help but over eat in times of stressful situations. Anyways how have you guys been? I'm hoping to get along with you all.
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Hi. And welcome. These times are tough for us all. It’s fine to mention which insulin you use.

Type 2 at 17? That’s tough and unusual. I’m assuming they did all the tests for type 1 and ruled that out? Has anyone talked to you about options for managing type 2, if that’s definite. Type 2 usually produce too much insulin but can’t use it well (Insulin resistant) and as such taking yet more insulin by injection is usually a last step not a first one as long term it adds to the problem even though short term helps.

Most of us T2 in here use a low carb way of eating as our way to manage it and as a starting point. Some add medications to that as required. Some manage to come off medications when they eat this way too. Have you heard of this? Tried it?
 
Helloo and thank youu for the warm welcome. Actually I already did the test where you check your insulin levels i forgot the name of the test and the result showed that my body can produce a lot of insulin but yes, I'm insulin resistant.
I was actually using metformin 500mg twice a day on my first 6 months upon diagnostic and the doctor suggested that I use the 9-inch plate method. The doctor gave us options that we can use the metformin or insulin since she said there were no side effects if I use the insulin so we agreed. And actually i am not overweight I actually just weigh 43 kg.
"injection is usually a last step not a first one as long term it adds to the problem" and can i ask youu what do you meann by this?
 
Franz26 said:
Helloo and thank youu for the warm welcome. Actually I already did the test where you check your insulin levels i forgot the name of the test and the result showed that my body can produce a lot of insulin but yes, I'm insulin resistant.
I was actually using metformin 500mg twice a day on my first 6 months upon diagnostic and the doctor suggested that I use the 9-inch plate method. The doctor gave us options that we can use the metformin or insulin since she said there were no side effects if I use the insulin so we agreed. And actually i am not overweight I actually just weigh 43 kg.
"injection is usually a last step not a first one as long term it adds to the problem" and can i ask youu what do you meann by this?
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Hello,

Just jumping in there, with hopefully an answer to your question added to my "Welcome!". You know you make loads of insulin and are resistant/insensitive to it. You become insensitive to something when there's lots of it, so it doesn't register anymore. Then putting even more of the stuff in seems rather counterproductive, right? If you look at it like that? You're on insulin now, odds are you'll keep adding to the insensitivity over time and will require ever increasing amounts of the stuff for it to have any effect. The plate method in this case wouldn't actually work all that well, (it rarely does if not combined with low carb), so yeah... I know it's a big read, but you might want to take a look at Dr. Jason Fung's The Diabetes Code. People can actually come off of insulin and repair some of their resistance. Though I have to say, between your age and weight it really, really is surprising you're a T2. Ah well. Stranger things have happened, and if you've had the tests, you've had the tests. Anyway, have a read here, see if it resonates, and whether it's something you want to look into: https://josekalsbeek.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-nutritional-thingy.html

Mind you, with the not needing/wanting to drop weight, you'll have to eat well and often. No intermittent fasting and such for you. Also, don't jump in with both feet without adjusting your insulin dosage, you'd hypo rather awfully most likely.

Be safe and keep asking questions! You'll be in this body for a long time yet, so best to keep it well-oiled.
Hugs,
Jo
 
JoKalsbeek said:
Hello,

Just jumping in there, with hopefully an answer to your question added to my "Welcome!". You know you make loads of insulin and are resistant/insensitive to it. You become insensitive to something when there's lots of it, so it doesn't register anymore. Then putting even more of the stuff in seems rather counterproductive, right? If you look at it like that? You're on insulin now, odds are you'll keep adding to the insensitivity over time and will require ever increasing amounts of the stuff for it to have any effect. The plate method in this case wouldn't actually work all that well, (it rarely does if not combined with low carb), so yeah... I know it's a big read, but you might want to take a look at Dr. Jason Fung's The Diabetes Code. People can actually come off of insulin and repair some of their resistance. Though I have to say, between your age and weight it really, really is surprising you're a T2. Ah well. Stranger things have happened, and if you've had the tests, you've had the tests. Anyway, have a read here, see if it resonates, and whether it's something you want to look into: https://josekalsbeek.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-nutritional-thingy.html

Mind you, with the not needing/wanting to drop weight, you'll have to eat well and often. No intermittent fasting and such for you. Also, don't jump in with both feet without adjusting your insulin dosage, you'd hypo rather awfully most likely.

Be safe and keep asking questions! You'll be in this body for a long time yet, so best to keep it well-oiled.
Hugs,
Jo
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Hello Jo! thanks for the warm greetings and the effort you put in writing this. And wow i actually never thought about that and neither did the doctor mention something like that, now that you mention it, it actually make sense. I have an appointment with my doctor next week and I'll try to ask about this and update you guyss.
By the way thank you so much for the tips and recommendations, I really appreciate it especially since there are still a lot of things that I do not know. Hoping for more support and guidance from here. Stay safe and well hydrated!
 
Franz26 said:
Hello Jo! thanks for the warm greetings and the effort you put in writing this. And wow i actually never thought about that and neither did the doctor mention something like that, now that you mention it, it actually make sense. I have an appointment with my doctor next week and I'll try to ask about this and update you guyss.
By the way thank you so much for the tips and recommendations, I really appreciate it especially since there are still a lot of things that I do not know. Hoping for more support and guidance from here. Stay safe and well hydrated!
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My pleasure. There's a lot of people on here who know way more than I do, so do feel free to keep asking any question you like. We may not be able to diagnose and such, but sometimes we're accidentally useful. ;) And now it's time for more tea. :)
Have a good weekend, and good luck with the evaluation!
 
Is it just your gp handling your case? If you were my child at your age and weight and being on insulin I’d want a second opinion from a specialist I think, as type 2 is unusual in such young people and they are usually quite seriously overweight which you obviously not. The fact that you dr thinks just eating less is going to help and only talked about 2 possible medications (there’s lots!) makes me wonder about the depth of their experience in cases like yours.

Low carb eating is endorsed by the nhs. Dr Unwin has produced official training modules for other GP’s to learn about it And there is The Low Carb Program prescribed in some areas. There are official guidelines for how to reduce insulin and other medications when embarking on low carb eating for drs to follow too.

Do you know your hb1ac when diagnosed and now? Perhaps ask for a list of tests and their results that were done at diagnosis when you see the dr next (your entitled to them and you can say it’s to track your progress for yourself if you feel the need to explain).

As Jo says you’re in this body a long time and being proactive in understanding fully this long term aspect of your health (Diet and diabetes) will set you up for a much better time of it long term.
 
HSSS said:
Is it just your gp handling your case? If you were my child at your age and weight and being on insulin I’d want a second opinion from a specialist I think, as type 2 is unusual in such young people and they are usually quite seriously overweight which you obviously not. The fact that you dr thinks just eating less is going to help and only talked about 2 possible medications (there’s lots!) makes me wonder about the depth of their experience in cases like yours.

Low carb eating is endorsed by the nhs. Dr Unwin has produced official training modules for other GP’s to learn about it And there is The Low Carb Program prescribed in some areas. There are official guidelines for how to reduce insulin and other medications when embarking on low carb eating for drs to follow too.

Do you know your hb1ac when diagnosed and now? Perhaps ask for a list of tests and their results that were done at diagnosis when you see the dr next (your entitled to them and you can say it’s to track your progress for yourself if you feel the need to explain).

As Jo says you’re in this body a long time and being proactive in understanding fully this long term aspect of your health (Diet and diabetes) will set you up for a much better time of it long term.
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I’m type 2 and I wouldn’t say “I’m quite seriously overweight” I get what your saying but maybe word things a little better. When I read this I get like you were putting all type 2s into a category in quite a prejudiced way. @HSSSS
 
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I’m type 2 and I wouldn’t say “I’m quite seriously overweight” I get what your saying but maybe word things a little better. When I read this I get like you were putting all type 2s into a category in quite a prejudiced way. @HSSSS
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I suspect HSSS meant the two combined. If a person is correctly diagnosed as t2 so young it is more likely that the young person is also overweight as oppose to being quite possibly underweight as the OP seems to be.

I would be questioning the diagnosis of t2 at your age and that weight if you were my daughter too. Particularly if you have also lost weight recently.
 
Mummybear3 said:
I’m type 2 and I wouldn’t say “I’m quite seriously overweight” I get what your saying but maybe word things a little better. When I read this I get like you were putting all type 2s into a category in quite a prejudiced way. @HSSSS
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I’m sorry you feel that way as no insult or slur was intended, but just what was prejudice in my statement? If I had said most people with a leg injury limp would you have been bothered by that? or redheads are more likely to have fair skin? These are all facts of biology and statistics.

I was referring to the very young type 2 most typically being overweight. In fact a majority of type 2 of any age are overweight at diagnosis. That is a statement of fact not judgement. Most, not all, are. Being type 2 makes a person more likely to be overweight due to their insulin resistance and inability to process carbs, therefore they store them as body fat. Not their fault, not a judgement. We cannot address the medical issues unless we are honest about causes and symptoms.

The media, and in fact many medical professionals, blame excess weight for diabetes and therefore create shame when in fact it is just as much a symptom not cause. We have been programmed to defend excess weight and feel attacked if it’s even mentioned due to the many fallacies that abound about it. The rebound effect is we then ignore the real issues around it as we are too busy denying and defending. Being afraid to name facts for fear of being labelled prejudiced or fat shaming isn’t helpful and simply adds to the unnecessary guilt people feel about diabetes induced weight gain.

People’s own perception of their own weight isn’t necessarily accurate either, society has different norms and expectations than 50 yrs ago for instance. I was very overweight bordering obesity when diagnosed, but at the time believed I was just a bit well covered. I am still only just into the top of normal but now realise for health purposes I could do with being a little smaller around the middle still.

I’m well aware not everyone shares my views on this and I don’t intend to derail this thread further with more discussion on my views (if you want to continue then please start another thread and tag me or send me a pm) but will not be called prejudiced unjustly without defending myself.
 
Hello there @Franz26 - I know there are more and more young people being diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes, but I must say we don't have large numbers who participate on the forum, so you'll have to put up with us crumblies.

How did you come to be diagnosed? Were you unwell?

Who do you see to support you in looking after your diabetes? Is this your general doctor, or do you see a specialist doctor at a hospital or clinic?

As others have said, for most people living with T2, what we eat and drink is very important in aiding our day to day control. You mention you've found the pandemic quite tough and stressful, leading to you overeating. Whilst it's easy to suggest trying not to do that, it's not usually that simple to actually put it into place.

Sorry to ask quite so many questions.
 
DCUKMod said:
Hello there @Franz26 - I know there are more and more young people being diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes, but I must say we don't have large numbers who participate on the forum, so you'll have to put up with us crumblies.

How did you come to be diagnosed? Were you unwell?

Who do you see to support you in looking after your diabetes? Is this your general doctor, or do you see a specialist doctor at a hospital or clinic?

As others have said, for most people living with T2, what we eat and drink is very important in aiding our day to day control. You mention you've found the pandemic quite tough and stressful, leading to you overeating. Whilst it's easy to suggest trying not to do that, it's not usually that simple to actually put it into place.

Sorry to ask quite so many questions.
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DCUKMod said:
Hello there @Franz26 - I know there are more and more young people being diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes, but I must say we don't have large numbers who participate on the forum, so you'll have to put up with us crumblies.

How did you come to be diagnosed? Were you unwell?

Who do you see to support you in looking after your diabetes? Is this your general doctor, or do you see a specialist doctor at a hospital or clinic?

As others have said, for most people living with T2, what we eat and drink is very important in aiding our day to day control. You mention you've found the pandemic quite tough and stressful, leading to you overeating. Whilst it's easy to suggest trying not to do that, it's not usually that simple to actually put it into place.

Sorry to ask quite so many questions.
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Helloo and thanks I'll be more than happy to talk to you guys.
Well our school required us to do a medical examintaion and my urinalysis showed a +2 in the sugar so I was referred to my current doctor, a pediatric endocrinologist since I was below 18 at that time. We did a lot of tests and tada I was diagnosed with type 2.
I didn't really experienced any symptoms related to diabetes like nothing at all and I was perfectly fine so I didn't really expect it though I ate a lost of sweets and chocolates in the past, like a lot.
Hahaha yes i tend to over eat when I'm stressed and it was a real struggle especially since a little cough makes me worried and makes me think I have coronavirus though that was three months ago and I'm still alive!!!
Thank you so muchh for replyingg. Stay safe and have a great day or night !
 
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