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Keto Diet - Not Working For Me!

Pat5496

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I have been sticking RELIGIOUSLY to the keto diet since the beginning of June. At the end of the first week I had lost 1.8 kilos and was very pleased and encouraged.
At the end of the second week I have GAINED .8k!
I just weighed myself again (last weigh-in was Sunday - 4 days ago) and I seem to have GAINED almost another whole kilo! Plus my waist appears to have expanded by more than 1 cm (although this measurement may not be scientifically precise).

I am feeling very discouraged and depressed. I thought I had found a diet that I could easily stick to and that worked.
What could I be doing wrong?
I have been eating absolutely NO:
Baked goods (bread, cakes, biscuits, etc.)
Potatoes, or other root veg
Pasta
... and I have even almost entirely given up alcohol ( I had literally one glass of wine last week).
I don't get a lot of exercise but I do take an energetic walk about 2.5km EVERY day.

Very depressing ): I might as well just go back to eating chips and sandwiches ):

If anybody has any suggestions as to what I may be doing wrong, I would be very happy to hear them.

Thanks!
Pat
 
Hello @Pat5496 and welcome to the forum. You are only three weeks into a completely new lifestyle, which your body has to get used to, don't expect instant results. Bodies are complicated things, with a lot of things going on. Drink a large glass of water and your weight goes up. Weigh yourself before and after a visit to the loo and weight will go down.

You have told us what you are not eating, but could you share a typical day's menu. Something that you ARE eating may be slowing things down a bit.
Sally
 
Hi Pat, as you’ve posted in the Type 2 Forum, I’m going to assume you have Type 2 though you don’t say so in your profile, with that in mind I’ll tag in @daisy1 for her welcome info post. If you are type 2 can you tell us if you’re on any meds in addition to the daily menu other members have already asked for. We will then be able to help you better.
 
@Pat5496

Hello Pat and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it both interesting and useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

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I have been sticking RELIGIOUSLY to the keto diet since the beginning of June. At the end of the first week I had lost 1.8 kilos and was very pleased and encouraged.
At the end of the second week I have GAINED .8k!
I just weighed myself again (last weigh-in was Sunday - 4 days ago) and I seem to have GAINED almost another whole kilo! Plus my waist appears to have expanded by more than 1 cm (although this measurement may not be scientifically precise).

I am feeling very discouraged and depressed. I thought I had found a diet that I could easily stick to and that worked.
What could I be doing wrong?
I have been eating absolutely NO:
Baked goods (bread, cakes, biscuits, etc.)
Potatoes, or other root veg
Pasta
... and I have even almost entirely given up alcohol ( I had literally one glass of wine last week).
I don't get a lot of exercise but I do take an energetic walk about 2.5km EVERY day.

Very depressing ): I might as well just go back to eating chips and sandwiches ):

If anybody has any suggestions as to what I may be doing wrong, I would be very happy to hear them.

Thanks!
Pat

Have you been really low carbing like under 20 grams of carbs daily , thats where it is keto ???
Most people do not get into keto untill they are really that low ... and only 10-20 grams more of carbs kan through most people out of keto ...

On the a bit higher low carb High fat diet many do gain weight if they dont control calories too
 
Thanks everybody for your helpful replies!
Yes, the veto diet is low carbs, high fat.
I have not kept PRECISE notes on how many carbs I've been consuming so I may have gone over the 20g threshold. I will start to keep precise measurements and see if that helps.
I'm on insulin - I measure my blood sugar levels before a meal and adjust the amount of insulin (Novorapid) I take according to the current level and what I am about to eat. Also take 40 units of the background insulin at night (Levemir).

A related question: How long does it take to get into kept? IE if I stick to the sub-20g rule for 1 day should that do it? Or 2 days? 3?
Thanks again for your help and support! I'm feeling better already :)
 
If you go strictly low carb, you should be in ketosis quite quickly...within a couple days.

As others have said, it would be very helpful to keep a food diary of EVERYTHING you eat/drink, and then post it here. While going low-carb is helpful, you also cannot eat limitless amounts of other macro-nutrients (fats/proteins). Calories still have a role to play (though to a lesser degree in some ways). Also, many people ingest too much protein on the LCHF diet unknowingly.

For example...are you eating 2 eggs and 2 slices of bacon for breakfast, or 4 eggs and 10 slices?
 
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A lot depends on when you weigh yourself. If you take a leak you can easy drop 0.8kg. 1 litre of water weighs 1kg. You need to look at the longer term trend.
 
Thanks everybody for your helpful replies!
Yes, the veto diet is low carbs, high fat.
I have not kept PRECISE notes on how many carbs I've been consuming so I may have gone over the 20g threshold. I will start to keep precise measurements and see if that helps.
I'm on insulin - I measure my blood sugar levels before a meal and adjust the amount of insulin (Novorapid) I take according to the current level and what I am about to eat. Also take 40 units of the background insulin at night (Levemir).

A related question: How long does it take to get into kept? IE if I stick to the sub-20g rule for 1 day should that do it? Or 2 days? 3?
Thanks again for your help and support! I'm feeling better already :)
Hi Pat
If you are type 2 on insuln (and relatively high doses) I assume you have had diabetes for a while or are quite insulin resistant. Also rather than doubling down and getting ultra strict, ask if you are getting better blood sugars before breakfast and after 3 weeks are you feeling any better in yourself? As people have indicated its worth carrying on but if you are not soon taking les insulin and feeling good on it then perhaps this is not the right diet.
I don't know your age or gender either but both these things could impact how your body adapts to fat burning.
I would also be getting a tape measure out to check if you are losing belly fat as this is a much better indicator of success than body mass (the scales).
Chips and sandwiches got you to this point so I am glad you've broken up with them!
 
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