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celast

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Should I as a type 2 no meds test keytones I dont understand anything about them only bits I have read here,what test results are good to have etc.
 

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Testing ketones is a necessity for insulin users, for whom ketoacidodis is a risk (technically you could get it as a diet only T2' but only if your pancreas stopped working or if you were an alcoholic).

Some of us Very Low Carbing T2s use ketosis as therapeutic way of managing our BG. We check our ketones to see if we are "in ketosis".

The answer is, you probably don't need to worry about it.
 

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The puzzle that is Asperger syndrome that I still can't fit together.
Alcoholics can get Ketoacidosis too? is that because they tend not to eat a great deal and get their calorific intake through the Alcohol they consume instead?
 

borofergie

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Paul1976 said:
Alcoholics can get Ketoacidosis too? is that because they tend not to eat a great deal and get their calorific intake through the Alcohol they consume instead?

Yup. Alcohol suppresses insulin secretion (insulin is what keeps ketosis in control), and alcoholics sometimes forget to eat. Starvation causes ketosis, and no insulin means it gets out of control.
 

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borofergie wrote
Alcohol suppresses insulin secretion (insulin is what keeps ketosis in control), and alcoholics sometimes forget to eat. Starvation causes ketosis, and no insulin means it gets out of control.

What joy to sit at the feet of a master, and learn.


Geoff
 

borofergie

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librarising said:
borofergie wrote
Alcohol suppresses insulin secretion (insulin is what keeps ketosis in control), and alcoholics sometimes forget to eat. Starvation causes ketosis, and no insulin means it gets out of control.

What joy to sit at the feet of a master, and learn.

Hic! :crazy: :sick:

Grazer taught me everything I know about drinking. Honest Guv' !
 

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borofergie said:
librarising said:
borofergie wrote
Alcohol suppresses insulin secretion (insulin is what keeps ketosis in control), and alcoholics sometimes forget to eat. Starvation causes ketosis, and no insulin means it gets out of control.

What joy to sit at the feet of a master, and learn.

Hic! :crazy: :sick:

Grazer taught me everything I know about drinking. Honest Guv' !

Wot! Who mentioned beer! Grazer here.
For once, Borofergie didn't quite get it right. Large amounts of Alcohol actually INCREASES insulin secretion, which is one of the contributing reasons for low BGs when drinking. However, long term heavy consumption of alcohol DECREASES the effectiveness of that insulin. Large numbers of alcoholics are also either diabetic or glucose intolerant. Anyway, off to the pub now......
 

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Just promise me you'll eat some nuts with it Malc.