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bangkokdiabetic

bangkokdiabetic

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Location
Thailand
Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Insulin
Now let me start by saying I am an Old Fuddy Duddy but and I am guilty of this myself But Diabetic Nurse or Diabetic Doctor means they have diabetes and Diabetic Ice cream means ??
Well I know what people mean and that's fine but I watch the News and many people learnt English from the news now god help them yes I know Languages are constantly evolving and its an age thing but at my age it is something of a disease bit like diabetes really hard to control but I will keep trying.

Anything irritate others.?
 
People, especially adults, who write using textese. And people who write loose instead of lose. Mild irritations.
 
I think "diabetic ice cream" is just being used as a description. You know what someone is talking about straight away. Not always, but mostly.
 
Goonergal said:
Or ‘kind of’

Or those who turn every sentence into a question by increasing intonation at the end of every sentence. Drives me nuts.
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Couldn't agree more. Not like there aren't substitutes .... oops, I just used "likeeeee"

Please shoot me :)
 
People who say “very unique”! There are no degrees of unique. Either it’s unique or not!
 
Nothing bothers me much - I rather like diversity in the way people speak - lots of areas are losing their dialects as the world gets smaller and I think that's a shame in a way as it's a loss of heritage and history.

BUT how people seem to use words wrongly en mass drives me nuts - the one that bugs me most and makes me shout out loud at my screen is " am I aloud to?.... is that aloud?" NO NO NO it's ALLOWED!!!!!! The amount of people that cannot use the correct version is astounding- I blame Cheryl Cole lol
 
Oh dear!I'm afraid I could be off on a very long rant. As Bangkokdiabetic says, language does change and I don't think it can be stopped. I train people to become teachers of English as a foreign language and many of them are unaware of the rules of use, strictly speaking, the grammar. There are however differences between use and usage and that's where language change comes in. There is also the difference between prescriptive and descriptive grammar. I am irritated by "loose" meaning not tight and "lose"but my main niggle is between countable and uncountable nouns and their determiners. For example, the difference between fewer/less, number and amount. To clarify, are carbohydrates countable or uncountable? I'd say countable because that's what a lot of us do, so do we say "Eat fewer carbohydrates or less carbohydrates"? A bit of a problem as carbohydrates when seen as units are countable but carbohydrate is a mass noun and so uncountable. Eat fewer carbs eat less carbohydrate and have a happy BG level.
 
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lovinglife said:
Nothing bothers me much - I rather like diversity in the way people speak - lots of areas are losing their dialects as the world gets smaller and I think that's a shame in a way as it's a loss of heritage and history.

BUT how people seem to use words wrongly en mass drives me nuts - the one that bugs me most and makes me shout out loud at my screen is " am I aloud to?.... is that aloud?" NO NO NO it's ALLOWED!!!!!! The amount of people that cannot use the correct version is astounding- I blame Cheryl Cole lol
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What about people writing "He should of eaten eggs"? This is very much influenced by pronunciation and it's wrong
 
Tophat1900 said:
I think "diabetic ice cream" is just being used as a description. You know what someone is talking about straight away. Not always, but mostly.
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should be ICE CREAM FOR DIABETICS the addition of one word and moving the word diabetic and pluralizing it is easy and just as descriptive but maybe not a good sales pitch for non diabetic customers

You know what I mean is another irritating phrase Like you know...!!!
 
bangkokdiabetic said:
should be ICE CREAM FOR DIABETICS the addition of one word and moving the word diabetic and pluralizing it is easy and just as descriptive but maybe not a good sales pitch for non diabetic customers

You know what I mean is another irritating phrase Like you know...
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Should be "Ice cream SUITABLE for diabetics" lol lol
 
In my mind "diabetic" is an adjective and I feel uncomfortable when it is used as a noun.
I will refer to a "person with diabetes but not "a diabetic."
This may not be linguistically incorrect but it feels that is all there is of significance with that person.
I don't hear people being described as "a canceric. " So why "a diabetic?
 
bangkokdiabetic said:
should be ICE CREAM FOR DIABETICS the addition of one word and moving the word diabetic and pluralizing it is easy and just as descriptive but maybe not a good sales pitch for non diabetic customers

You know what I mean is another irritating phrase Like you know...!!!
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Sales pitch, yeah, you know. Just doesn't roll off the tongue as well, like, you know. :)
 
lovinglife said:
Should be "Ice cream SUITABLE for diabetics" lol lol
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Although just a note, Frank’s Diabetic Vanilla ice cream (19.7g carbs/100mls is hardly more ‘suitable’ than Haagen Dazs Vanilla ice cream at 19.9gcarbs/100mls! :joyful:
 
The word "dude" makes my hackles rise.

I never use the words diabetic nurse or diabetic clinic. I always say diabetes nurse and diabetes clinic.

I have to scroll past posts written in text language. I want to ask the poster if his keyboard is broken.

"Gonna" is another one. Why not just say "going to"
 
Don't get me started. Watching a TV programme (correct spelling) the other evening which was obviously American but with a UK voice over and he kept saying skedule (schedule) and I shouted every time. I abhor bad grammar and bad spelling.
 
helensaramay said:
In my mind "diabetic" is an adjective and I feel uncomfortable when it is used as a noun.
I will refer to a "person with diabetes but not "a diabetic."
This may not be linguistically incorrect but it feels that is all there is of significance with that person.
I don't hear people being described as "a canceric. " So why "a diabetic?
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Would you be in favour of Alcoholics Anonymous renaming their organisation as Persons with Alcoholism Anonymous?
 
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