Lchf And Fruit ?

[daisyduck]

I do very well on LCHF and normally keep carbs well below 50g a day. I really miss fruit though, but am worried about the carb content.
How do you all respond to the sugar in fruit ?

 

[paganlass]

I'm on lchf and I just have full fat yoghurt with about a tablespoon of mixed berries immediately after my evening meal. It works for me. u just have to work out Wat is best for u. Everyone is different. I keep away from melon and grapes. I do sometimes put a little pineapple in aswell. Hope this helps.

 

[Lamont D]

I do very well on LCHF and normally keep carbs well below 50g a day. I really miss fruit though, but am worried about the carb content.
How do you all respond to the sugar in fruit ?

Some have a fruit intolerance, which would explain why their blood glucose levels soar after fruit and of course different fruits. There is also the rest that can only tolerate small pieces like myself, so I share or have smaller pieces through the day. Berries, and small apples and pears are usually ok.

But as always, you have to find out for yourself.
Test, test, test! And record!

 

[daisyduck]

Some have a fruit intolerance, which would explain why their blood glucose levels soar after fruit and of course different fruits. There is also the rest that can only tolerate small pieces like myself, so I share or have smaller pieces through the day. Berries, and small apples and pears are usually ok.

But as always, you have to find out for yourself.
Test, test, test! And record!

Thanks. I've just been mowing our large lawn and really fancied a slice of melon for lunch... 6.2 before and only 6.0 five mins after... I'll test again in half an hour but I am thinking that the activity will make a difference too ?

 

[daisyduck]

I'm on lchf and I just have full fat yoghurt with about a tablespoon of mixed berries immediately after my evening meal. It works for me. u just have to work out Wat is best for u. Everyone is different. I keep away from melon and grapes. I do sometimes put a little pineapple in aswell. Hope this helps.

Thank you. I do have a few raspberries or strawberries with either full fat greek yogurt or double cream and these don't seem to make a difference to my BG. I'm really fancying watermelon in this hot weather .. so I'll have to bite the bullet (melon) and test

 

[PenfoldAPD]

Moderation is the key for me. So I probably would eat half the portion of strawberries I used to - with lashing of cream as that's allowed on my LCHF regime. Some really high sugar fruit though I just ignore these days, for me I want to have good control and that's better than the taste of juicy fruit.

As someone else mentioned test yourself and try things - you might find you get on fine with fruits others can't tolerate.

 

[daisyduck]

Thanks. I've just been mowing our large lawn and really fancied a slice of melon for lunch... 6.2 before and only 6.0 five mins after... I'll test again in half an hour but I am thinking that the activity will make a difference too ?

Oops.. half an hour on and I'm 9.1 I guess melon is off the menu

 

[Brunneria]

Fruit is really quick release sugars.
It really depends what you are willing to tolerate by way of a sharp rise and fall.

People often have no idea how high the fruit sends them, because it has dropped again by the time they test. Although you can slow things down by eating fruit as a dessert after a meal, or by having it with cream. Fruit as a snack on an empty stomach is great for the digestion, but dreadful for blood glucose. It can be like riding a roller coaster.

May be worth testing every few mins until the bg has dropped back to the starting point, to see what really happens - then you can decide if those numbers fit in with what you consider good management.

(I tend to stick with a small portion of berries with cream, or a single orange segment. more than that, and I see a sharp rise, followed by a sharp drop. Both of which are outside my comfort zone)

 

[daisyduck]

Fruit is really quick release sugars.
It really depends what you are willing to tolerate by way of a sharp rise and fall.

People often have no idea how high the fruit sends them, because it has dropped again by the time they test. Although you can slow things down by eating fruit as a dessert after a meal, or by having it with cream. Fruit as a snack on an empty stomach is great for the digestion, but dreadful for blood glucose. It can be like riding a roller coaster.

May be worth testing every few mins until the bg has dropped back to the starting point, to see what really happens - then you can decide if those numbers fit in with what you consider good management.

(I tend to stick with a small portion of berries with cream, or a single orange segment. more than that, and I see a sharp rise, followed by a sharp drop. Both of which are outside my comfort zone)

Thanks .That seems to be the case here.. one hour on and I'm back to 6.3
I'm not sure about "good management" as I haven't felt any different with those readings.
What would be an acceptable rise ? or does that vary from person to person ?

 

[Brunneria]

There are no official guidelines on this at all. The usual guidelines just talk about numbers at 90 mins, I think - and you have already hit that target.

I am a little bit precious about fast rises and falls, because I have reactive hypoglycaemia, which means that if I spike too high, too fast, it triggers an excess of insulin, a rapid drop and a possible hypo. This doesn't happen for most people, so unless you have a history of hypos (which you would definitely know about!) you don't have to worry.

So really it is up to you to decide what you want to aim for. If I were you, I would run a few controlled experiments and see how different portion sizes affect you, and if you do better after meals, or with cream, and so on.

At least that way you are making an informed choice, rather than thinking that fruit is 'fine' because it doesn't show up at your 2 hour test.

Hope that helps.

 

[daisyduck]

There are no official guidelines on this at all. The usual guidelines just talk about numbers at 90 mins, I think - and you have already hit that target.

I am a little bit precious about fast rises and falls, because I have reactive hypoglycaemia, which means that if I spike too high, too fast, it triggers an excess of insulin, a rapid drop and a possible hypo. This doesn't happen for most people, so unless you have a history of hypos (which you would definitely know about!) you don't have to worry.

So really it is up to you to decide what you want to aim for. If I were you, I would run a few controlled experiments and see how different portion sizes affect you, and if you do better after meals, or with cream, and so on.

At least that way you are making an informed choice, rather than thinking that fruit is 'fine' because it doesn't show up at your 2 hour test.

Hope that helps.

Thanks Brunneria. You and the other contributors to these forums have been so helpful.
My doctor and DN are about as useful as a chocolate teapot !
These forums have given me the confidence to go with what feels right for me and this has shown to be correct in my test results . My HbAc1 is now down to 48 and I have been discharged from the liver clinic as my liver has been classed as normal for the last year. All down to LCHF and testing.

 

[Tabbyjoolz]

I ate some full-fat yogurt and 10 cherries for breakfast last weekend and was fine. Maybe the fat in the yogurt helped slow down a potential spike.