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LCHF Diet - Wary Of It

Well I fell off the wagon a bit last night at a dinner. Pâté and salad to start, Xmas turkey dinner with 3 roasties, one boiled new pot, a parsnip and gravy and stuffing. Woke today to BS of 10.7 having got below 8 in the mornings and felt like **** all day. Oh dear. Lesson learned. Oh and ONE pint of real ale.
 
KevinWilliams13752 said:
Well I fell off the wagon a bit last night at a dinner. Pâté and salad to start, Xmas turkey dinner with 3 roasties, one boiled new pot, a parsnip and gravy and stuffing. Woke today to BS of 10.7 having got below 8 in the mornings and felt like **** all day. Oh dear. Lesson learned. Oh and ONE pint of real ale.
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Don't worry - it is a lesson we all learn.

And I have to keep reminding myself of it, at regular intervals. ;)
 
KevinWilliams13752 said:
Well I fell off the wagon a bit last night at a dinner. Pâté and salad to start, Xmas turkey dinner with 3 roasties, one boiled new pot, a parsnip and gravy and stuffing. Woke today to BS of 10.7 having got below 8 in the mornings and felt like **** all day. Oh dear. Lesson learned. Oh and ONE pint of real ale.
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On the other hand, I just finished chomping on pork rinds fried up in coconut oil and pork chop fat - extremely yummy and very satisfying, she says, licking her lips.

My vegetarian daughter was at our table for dinner last night, so we had roasted root veg along with the chook, and I could not resist. It is hard sometimes, indeed. (I don't need to say - it's easier to resist when they aren't there in a dish on the table? Sigh. I don't as a rule, miss potatoes.) But the servings of the roast root veg were small, and delicious of course, but made my carb count over the 25-50 g, indeed.

It's not easy being a diabetic, and keeping an eye on the carb count. No indeed! (Sigh.)

Re the beer - yes, a sacrifice not to drink it, due to the high carb count. And I miss the drinking culture around beer too - I mean - why did wine drinkers ever accept that pathetic splash of the stuff many bars give us and charge a relative fortune for? Gee.

But, while eating the pork and the rinds (and a lot of salad I promise) - I was re-reading the website information my government authorities and local charities dish out to diabetics on nutrition, so consequently am feeling a bit like I'm in an alternative reality - where down is up and up is down (where sweet is sour and sour sweet?). Because if eating carbohydrates is not bad for a diabetic (so says these folk), and sugar is a carbohydrate, then it is part of a well balanced nutritious diet for diabetics to eat added sugar. I kid you not. I prefer my sci-fi to be in movies and on TV than on websites giving information to diabetics - but hey! There are dieticians living in my environs who actually go around advising diabetics to include added sugar in their diet! And of course - 1/4 plate of carbs three times a day. And they get paid for it, some of them indirectly by me from taxes, and they probably have no problems going to sleep at night.

We live in interesting times indeed, when it comes to nutritional information, and diabetes. Good thing we talk to each other!
 
AloeSvea said:
On the other hand, I just finished chomping on pork rinds fried up in coconut oil and pork chop fat - extremely yummy and very satisfying, she says, licking her lips.

My vegetarian daughter was at our table for dinner last night, so we had roasted root veg along with the chook, and I could not resist. It is hard sometimes, indeed. (I don't need to say - it's easier to resist when they aren't there in a dish on the table? Sigh. I don't as a rule, miss potatoes.) But the servings of the roast root veg were small, and delicious of course, but made my carb count over the 25-50 g, indeed.

It's not easy being a diabetic, and keeping an eye on the carb count. No indeed! (Sigh.)

Re the beer - yes, a sacrifice not to drink it, due to the high carb count. And I miss the drinking culture around beer too - I mean - why did wine drinkers ever accept that pathetic splash of the stuff many bars give us and charge a relative fortune for? Gee.

But, while eating the pork and the rinds (and a lot of salad I promise) - I was re-reading the website information my government authorities and local charities dish out to diabetics on nutrition, so consequently am feeling a bit like I'm in an alternative reality - where down is up and up is down (where sweet is sour and sour sweet?). Because if eating carbohydrates is not bad for a diabetic (so says these folk), and sugar is a carbohydrate, then it is part of a well balanced nutritious diet for diabetics to eat added sugar. I kid you not. I prefer my sci-fi to be in movies and on TV than on websites giving information to diabetics - but hey! There are dieticians living in my environs who actually go around advising diabetics to include added sugar in their diet! And of course - 1/4 plate of carbs three times a day. And they get paid for it, some of them indirectly by me from taxes, and they probably have no problems going to sleep at night.

We live in interesting times indeed, when it comes to nutritional information, and diabetes. Good thing we talk to each other!
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Absolutely..it's disturbing that so much out-dated rubbish is still being dished out by those who we should be confidently able to look to for advice - it's not like only 3 people in the world have diabetes! There are also many "experts" advocating vegetarian/no oils diets while others say eat only animal products...and quite a few simply trying to sell books. Undoubtedly, the best way is to figure out for ourselves (with the help of others via this site for example) by recording what we eat and what impact it has on us as individuals. That said..if we are happy to say that simple carb like sugar is not exactly good for us..how then can other simple carbs (which turn to sugar in effect) be any good for us?
 
pleinster said:
Absolutely..it's disturbing that so much out-dated rubbish is still being dished out by those who we should be confidently able to look to for advice - it's not like only 3 people in the world have diabetes! There are also many "experts" advocating vegetarian/no oils diets while others say eat only animal products...and quite a few simply trying to sell books. Undoubtedly, the best way is to figure out for ourselves (with the help of others via this site for example) by recording what we eat and what impact it has on us as individuals. That said..if we are happy to say that simple carb like sugar is not exactly good for us..how then can other simple carbs (which turn to sugar in effect) be any good for us?
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Fortunately not very many people advocate an animal product only diet. What a crazy idea!
 
NoCrbs4Me said:
Fortunately not very many people advocate an animal product only diet. What a crazy idea!
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There are some crazy people out there :)..so there are crazy diabetics too. What's next..drink only your own urine (on Tuesdays)? note - my sense of humour is often faulty.
 
NoCrbs4Me said:
Maybe eat only plants? That seems like I bizarre idea to me.
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Seems way off the mark to me too. Such selective eating resulted in the end of several early hominids as the evolution of the species found its way millions of years ago. The teeth and digestive systems developing due to limited food sources in certain areas were too specialised to cope with anything else and changes to climate meant failure to survive. I did try vegetarianism years ago and managed for 18 months before i rediscovered how damned good bacon tasted. Fortunately for me that's not long enough for my teeth to changed so much as certain australopithici. I could still adapt, and did. So, for me...plant eating alone...is for herbivores..Not sure how many diabetics there were 2.5 million years ago though...I suspect there were none as early man had no greedy scum corporations to pump his sources full of addictive **** to keep him swapping shells and flints for it.
 
I do LCHF eating plan, it is the best thing I did. Lost weight, my energy levels gone up, now I play futsal once a week and if I can walking football twice a week.

Cutting out the carbs gives you better glucose control, then the body cannot rely on carbs for energy, therefore switches to burning fat, losing weight win, win.

You will need fat to replace the carbs for energy. Full fat yogurt s, proper butter, now low fat food stuff full of rubbish.
I like sausages, if you do buy the ones with the highest meat content, fewer carbs and other bad fillers. Looking at ingredients look at total carbs these give you the best idea on how it effects your blood glucose.
Consequently the lower the carbs, higher the fat content.. I know it s hard to get your head around.
It does work, for me veg doesn't fill me up what's so ever, I would be hungry all the time. I eat meat, its more satisfing, so eat less.
Everyone is different, what works for one doesn't always work for another.
 
pleinster said:
There are some crazy people out there :)..so there are crazy diabetics too. What's next..drink only your own urine (on Tuesdays)? note - my sense of humour is often faulty.
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Your logic is also faulty. Don't you know that diabetic urine has ADDED SUGAR !!! Lol.
 
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pleinster said:
Seems way off the mark to me too. Such selective eating resulted in the end of several early hominids as the evolution of the species found its way millions of years ago. The teeth and digestive systems developing due to limited food sources in certain areas were too specialised to cope with anything else and changes to climate meant failure to survive. I did try vegetarianism years ago and managed for 18 months before i rediscovered how damned good bacon tasted. Fortunately for me that's not long enough for my teeth to changed so much as certain australopithici. I could still adapt, and did. So, for me...plant eating alone...is for herbivores..Not sure how many diabetics there were 2.5 million years ago though...I suspect there were none as early man had no greedy scum corporations to pump his sources full of addictive **** to keep him swapping shells and flints for it.
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No scum corporations at all.

No nipping down to Tesco in the Ford Focus with the Shell petrol, for a rummage in the fridge, then cooking on the Belling, with British Gas for the fuel.

Corporations, who needs them.
Let's get back to the pointy stick, and running faster than dinner.
 
SunnyExpat said:
No scum corporations at all.

No nipping down to Tesco in the Ford Focus with the Shell petrol, for a rummage in the fridge, then cooking on the Belling, with British Gas for the fuel.

Corporations, who needs them.
Let's get back to the pointy stick, and running faster than dinner.
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I would...but...can someone else get my dinner please. To be fair, it would be worth getting stuck in the deep dark mesolithic past just to never have had to experience the early 70s.
 
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