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LCHF Diet

Daz1

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Hi all .... I'm quite new to all tho diabetes stuff, recently diagnosed type 2 whilst in hospital. I have made some dietary changes and exercise more than I did but not really shifting any weight. I do keep hearing about the LCHF diet but not sure what it is or how it works, so any info or advice would be a great help.
Thankyou
 
Welcome to the forum.

There is certainly a wealth of information about LCHF dieting and even a forum subsection devoted to it. My advice is to read through that subsection and learn a bit about the different variations.

People have literally written books about what it is and how it works so it wouldn't be doing it justice to try to answer those questions in this thread.
 
@Daz1 - Hello and Welcome to the Forum. I will tag @13lizanne who has a link for the LCHF Diet which is followed by a lot of members on this forum.:)
 
TorqPenderloin

Thankyou, I will be having a visit to the library then and do some research
You don't need to go to the library just read around on this site. I'll tag @daisy1 to give you the intro to the Low Carb High Fat diet that a lot of us follow to control our blood sugar and also drop a few pounds.
 
Hello @Daz1 welcome to the forum. Have a look at the thread , low carb what have you eaten today? A number of us post our food diaries each day. It is handy for getting ideas of what to eat and if you are not sure post your food for the day and ask for comments re low carb. Good luck
 
@Daz1

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. It gives a lot of info about carbs. It also gives a link to the Low Carb Program which you may find interesting. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Daibell, I had thought that originally, that was the reason for the initial post as I couldn't see how high fat would be good for us
 
Why wouldn't high fat be good for us? The 'low carbs' and 'high fat' refers to the % of calories out of your daily total. It doesn't mean you eat massive amounts of fat a day. If you reduce carbs to a low percentage you need to either increase protein or fat to make up the calories. I believe, and many agree, that increasing the fat intake, rather than protein, is healthier, as long as it's natural fat (like animal fat), not factory produced fat (like veg/seed oil).
 
NoCrbs4Me, We have always had it drummed into us about the dangers of high fat, high salt, high sugar. As I say, I'm new to this so its a learning curve
 
NoCrbs4Me, We have always had it drummed into us about the dangers of high fat, high salt, high sugar. As I say, I'm new to this so its a learning curve
All that silly dietary advice hasn't gotten the western world's populations to a healthier state, although very few people actually follow it closely. Hopefully you can adjust your thinking. I eat lots of saturated fat and more salt than is recommended and am the healthiest I've been in my life.
 
NoCrbs4Me, We have always had it drummed into us about the dangers of high fat, high salt, high sugar. As I say, I'm new to this so its a learning curve
Yes it's a shock to the system when we learn the truth. I followed low fat for years and it helped me on my way to becoming morbidly obese. Now I am choosing higher fat and I am hoping to be merely obese fairly soon. :)
 
I went low carb high fat (and I mean lots of dairy, double cream, eggs, cheese, fatty meats, cooking with coconut oil (as well as using some olive oil and having occasional oily fish). The result - lost 9kg without any effort or ever feeling hungry, blood pressure improved, lipid profile improved, energy levels way up, skin clearer, fewer aches and pains, can exercise longer and never run out of energy, blood glucose levels improved etc etc. People have been brainwashed into thinking fat makes you fat (but the basis for that appears to be very bad science). I like to think that fat fuels you better and oils the joints! Sugar on the other hand (and all carbs turn to sugar in the blood) can be sticky like syrup and molasses so I think of it as gumming up the works which reminds me not to eat it.
If you can get hold of a book from the 70's (or possibly earlier ) called Pure White and Deadly by Professor Yudkin it's a good read about the dangers of sugar. The food industry tried to discredit him but i think we are now getting to the stage where more and more people are realising he was right and it was the demonising of fat that has done much damage to the nations health.
I now combine Paleo ideas (little or no processed food, lots of leafy and above ground veg) with the addition of dairy for the good fats and so I can have as few carbs as possible. I no longer eat bread, pasta, potatoes, rice etc. except occasionally as a treat and from someone who used to live on toast i am amazed how little I miss it as my tastes have really changed.
I also recommend the www.dietdoctor.com website as there is so much good info on there and most of it is free.
 
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