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Lchf...is it best to stay on this now

I think you need a diet you can live with and if your bg is high, you need meds, although an ideal way to lose weight, because most people can't get enough fat to have their full quota of needed calories...high fats aren't for everyone long term.
as you are finding out, a sustained stable weight LCHF, does really mean high fat. you could work out how much fat you are happy with and how much carb you may need to add...then you could take meds for the carbs and the normal protein..?
you got your primary goal of losing weight and got your pancreas/insulin working better than it was. now you need a diet you're happy with
 
AnnieC said:
I have the same problem I never needed to loose weight but I did loose it when I dropped the carbs and sugar and I have asked this question before. I just wish someone had the answer how to stop loosing weight when on LCHF but no one does. Even googling it does not bring up anything .There is plenty about LCHF as a weight loss diet so presumably if you just did it for that then you would stop when you had lost the weight you wanted to but when doing the diet for diabetes people do not want to stop eating that way
I probably eat more carbs than you do but if I drop the carbs anymore I drop the weight again so not good I eat a normal amount of protein and have fats in olive oil full fat dairy eggs and nuts
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I managed to put on 1 1/4 stone whist on a low carb diet (around 40 carbs per day) about 6 months back. I had gone on a low carb diet to get my BG low, and this worked very well, but my weight dropped (to BMI of 21).

I managed to put weight on by increasing the amount of meat, fish, cheese and eggs consumed. Basically Lots of meat. Eg Mixed grill at lunch with salad. 2Eggs 2bacon 2sausage breakfast.

Within 6 to 8 weeks I had put on 1-1/4 stone, but my BG levels did rise, by on average around 0.5 to 1.00. Once I was up to BMI 22 I cut back on the meat and sausages, and have since introduced more fat (double cream, bullet proof coffee) into my diet. My weight has been stable now (12-1/2 stone BMI 22) for the last three months, with carbs now at 36g per day.
 
Ian DP said:
I managed to put on 1 1/4 stone whist on a low carb diet (around 40 carbs per day) about 6 months back. I had gone on a low carb diet to get my BG low, and this worked very well, but my weight dropped (to BMI of 21).

I managed to put weight on by increasing the amount of meat, fish, cheese and eggs consumed. Basically Lots of meat. Eg Mixed grill at lunch with salad. 2Eggs 2bacon 2sausage breakfast.

Within 6 to 8 weeks I had put on 1-1/4 stone, but my BG levels did rise, by on average around 0.5 to 1.00. Once I was up to BMI 22 I cut back on the meat and sausages, and have since introduced more fat (double cream, bullet proof coffee) into my diet. My weight has been stable now (12-1/2 stone BMI 22) for the last three months, with carbs now at 36g per day.
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Yes the protein gets converted to glucose and you get insulin in your body. That will be a good alternative as Ian says if you do not have kidney issues as it will not raise your glucose levels too far like increased carbs. Good point @Ian DP
 
if you want to continue with LCHF, you may need to do some more reading and research to work out something sustainable, as you know your old diet didn't work for you, so it may be something inbetween that and ketogenic and has been said, some people run their protein a bit higher,
 
jack412 said:
...........most people can't get enough fat to have their full quota of needed calories...
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@alliebee It's a shame you couldn't keep up the 'bulletproof' coffee, 3 or 4 cups of that alone would the normal amount of calories for the day.
Anything else is a bonus.
(Well, to be fair, one and a half for me is my days full allowance gone at the moment)
How about bullet proof tea?
 
Thanks everyone. I had a good fasting today at 6.8 And I've also put on a pound too! So it seems all I needed were slightly larger portions
Thanks so much for the great advice
 
alliebee said:
And I'm still in ketosis at 50g of carbs. Blooming amazing!
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It will usually take a few days for that to happen anyway, it's best to make a change, then give it a week or so for your body to settle into it, then review it.
 
I've been in ketosis solidly for the three months....I was just amazed a few extra carbs would see me still in ketosis...v pleased about my fasting and the fact I've put a pound on
 
izzzi said:
Hi @alliebee , You have a good doctor and a friend who is a consultant cardiologist that is a fan of the LCHF diet.
I am sure they know more about your personal health than we do.
I would seek and take their advice as priority due to your recent flare up of MS.
I am just a bit concerned some of us could be giving you bad advice with knowing it.
Sorry, meant to say. without knowing it. ( that's my mild dyslexia kicking in )
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Thanks @jack4 for the videos.

As soon as I saw this thread, I thought of that lecture.

I think it is a question of fat, protein, portion size and carbs all in the correct proportins.

If you have upped your carbs a bit @alliebee , then your capacity to eat fat will have adjusted in proportion. Think of it like 'fat tolerance'. The lower your carbs, the more fat you can eat without negative impact. The more carbs, the lower your 'fat tolerance' without weight gain.
So upping carbs and upping fat at the same time will halt weight loss dead, and cause regain, depending on quantities. I know. I have sabotaged many a diet with carb and fat creep ;)

Upping protein and fat is probably a more easily controlled way of doing it.

But can you check your cholesterol (esp triglycerides) after a while doing this? I suspect the carb/fat combo may have an impact, if you have the carbs too high.
 
I've been maintaining weight on a (very) low carb diet since around March - I definitely still need to lose more weight though. However, since I know that I can maintain a steady weight by keeping to this sort of diet I'm actually rather happy because as far as I'm concerned being in ketosis is actually much better for me and my brain, so it's been a change in lifestyle I want to keep.

I know the mantra is "you don't need to count calories on a low carb diet", but I feel that to an extent you probably do, both when you need to lose weight that's not shifting, and when you want to put a bit more on.

Robbity
 
It may not be for everyone but i found Drs. Phinney & Volek's book "The Art & Science of Low Carb Living" a great and informative read. Going to read it again as there is so much information to process and understand. They also have quite a bit on weight maintenance for LCHF. But best to read the whole thing and not just that part in isolation as it seems there is a process to this, a method to the madness if you will. good luck!! :)
 
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