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Liquid Metformin

Stumps 2

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Type of diabetes
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Because i am useless at swallowing tablets i got prescribed liquid metformin.... i take 25 ml after breakfast and 50 ml after dinner... i have only been taking metformin a short while as i was controling with diet .. i have been taking the oral metformin for about 6 months and both of my 3 monthly blood test have come back with very high readings.. the doctor accused me of not taking the meds but this was not the case...
my tests i do are all over 10 ... and last thing at night they are 15 ish...... i am not sleeping and dropping off to sleep during the day when ever i sit down...
Is there a method in taking this oral metformin as it seems to be doing nothing...
any one else on the oral stuff ?
 
Metformin is not prescribed to lower blood glucose levels and has minimal effects in this regard. Cutting down on the carbohydrates in your diet will have a far better influence on your numbers.

Tagging @daisy1 for the info pack offered to all newcomers. Welcome to the forum.
 
Hi and welcome,

Metformin does lower blood glucose, and is prescribed for that reason. But it is not as strong a glucose lowering drug as some. It is usually used as the first drug prescribed for type 2 diabetes, because as well as lowering blood glucose, it also has other benefits. It reduces insulin resistance and helps to reduce the amount of glucose released from the liver.

If your blood glucose is in the 10-15mmol/l range while taking metformin, then your doctor may suggest adding more medication, unless you are able to reduce your blood glucose levels by other means.

Have you ever tried reducing your carb intake, so that your blood glucose doesn’t go so high? Many type 2 diabetics on the forum find that making changes to their diet has more effect than medication.
 
the doctor accused me of not taking the meds

Welcome to the forum, a good place to to share experiences.

Metformin decreases hepatic glucose production, decreases intestinal absorption of glucose, and improves insulin sensitivity by increasing peripheral glucose uptake and utilization. The instructions I had were that Metformin is to be used with proper diet, although no one tells you what a "proper diet" really means.

As brunneria has mentioned, lowering carbs can be very useful in lowering BG levels. My own experience was that giving up bread/pasta/rice/potato meant that I threw away Gliclazide and Januvia (as well as Atorvastatin) because I didn't need them. I have been known to eat the odd slice of toast, even some rice on occasion, but I don't really miss them and even if my diabetes miraculously disappeared overnight, I wouldn't go back to the old days of consuming about 1/3 of my calories in the form of carbohydrate which is what the current guidelines suggest (NHS Eatwell Guide).

I eat about 40gms of carb a day, I eat lots of vegetables, which seems to suit me, different people manage with different amounts of carbohydrate, it's a case of seeing what's best for you.

All the best.
 
@Stumps 2

Hello Stumps 2 and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

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Welcome to the forum, a good place to to share experiences.

Metformin decreases hepatic glucose production, decreases intestinal absorption of glucose, and improves insulin sensitivity by increasing peripheral glucose uptake and utilization. The instructions I had were that Metformin is to be used with proper diet, although no one tells you what a "proper diet" really means.

As brunneria has mentioned, lowering carbs can be very useful in lowering BG levels. My own experience was that giving up bread/pasta/rice/potato meant that I threw away Gliclazide and Januvia (as well as Atorvastatin) because I didn't need them. I have been known to eat the odd slice of toast, even some rice on occasion, but I don't really miss them and even if my diabetes miraculously disappeared overnight, I wouldn't go back to the old days of consuming about 1/3 of my calories in the form of carbohydrate which is what the current guidelines suggest (NHS Eatwell Guide).

I eat about 40gms of carb a day, I eat lots of vegetables, which seems to suit me, different people manage with different amounts of carbohydrate, it's a case of seeing what's best for you.

All the best.
I though I was was having a high protein diet... eggs, beans, white meat.. plenty of fruit and veg... no bread, very little rice.. etc..
 
I though I was was having a high protein diet... eggs, beans, white meat.. plenty of fruit and veg... no bread, very little rice.. etc..

Diet is a very personal thing, but the bottom line is "less carb, lower BG". From what you list, beans, fruit and rice would probably cause spikes in your BG. You will hear a lot of people talking about "eating to your meter" which means exactly that. Eat something and then see how it affects your BG, even protein can affect BG although it isn't usually too much of a problem, you'd have to test after a high protein meal. Personally I have to be careful with protein. The attached file illustrates what happened when I ate 2 fried eggs at 07:00.
 

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