Liver

[ang]

Please can anyone help. I recently had an ultrasound to check for gallstones. My GP has texted me the results(which came through at 3.30am this morning on my phone!) It says that it did not show gallstones but it showed chronic liver disease due to fatty liver. I am beside myself with worry now. The text casually said that I can arrange a routine GP telephone conversation on Monday to discuss the result.

 

[bulkbiker]

NAFLD and T2 often go hand in hand so it's not too surprising.

The "cure" is usually similar too.. reduce carbohydrate in the diet as much as possible and with NAFLD fruit might end up being a significant contributor as fructose is processed in the liver.

 

[ang]

Thank you for your reply bulkbiker. I do eat a lot of fruit, especially red grapes and satsumas. After looking up chronic liver disease on Dr. Google I am imagining dreadful things but you think it can be cured or reversed ? That would be brilliant, I have not been a good diabetic, though since last week I have been eating only low carb and signed up and started a 3 month fitness class. I really hope this helps as my stomach has been feeling uncomfortable for some time now but since I started low carbing last week, most of that feeling has gone. Sorry for the essay !

 

[bulkbiker]

Thank you for your reply bulkbiker. I do eat a lot of fruit, especially red grapes and satsumas. After looking up chronic liver disease on Dr. Google I am imagining dreadful things but you think it can be cured or reversed ? That would be brilliant, I have not been a good diabetic, though since last week I have been eating only low carb and signed up and started a 3 month fitness class. I really hope this helps as my stomach has been feeling uncomfortable for some time now but since I started low carbing last week, most of that feeling has gone. Sorry for the essay !

Not an essay at all.. but good to hear you are feeling better..
Berries (raspberry and strawberry) are one of the lowest carb fruits .. grapes less so...
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/fruits

 

[Deleted member 475901]

I was told I had a fatty liver some years ago, but after 18mths on low carb, eating more fat than I used to, I had a scan and it had resolved. So in spite of my new diet and my GP's concerns about both my cholesterol and liver all is fine.
I hope going low carb works as well for you.

 

[KK123]

Please can anyone help. I recently had an ultrasound to check for gallstones. My GP has texted me the results(which came through at 3.30am this morning on my phone!) It says that it did not show gallstones but it showed chronic liver disease due to fatty liver. I am beside myself with worry now. The text casually said that I can arrange a routine GP telephone conversation on Monday to discuss the result.

Hi Ang, is that how this text read? That seems an abrupt way to tell you. Have there been any 'danger' signs of this in your past blood tests at all? They seem to do a lot of tests associated with the liver so to go from 'normal' to out of the blue chronic must be worrying. . x

 

[ang]

Hi KK,yes the text was extremely blunt ! My past blood tests have all been totally normal.

Hi Tricia Ws, you fill me with hope, I hope I can reverse this.

 

[Andydragon]

Hi KK,yes the text was extremely blunt ! My past blood tests have all been totally normal.

Hi Tricia Ws, you fill me with hope, I hope I can reverse this.

That’s really bad, my doctor will leave a message asking me to call to discuss but never give a diagnosis in this way.

can you see your results online?

My ALT dropped from 86 to 26 during my health improvements (reducing carbs and a large weight loss) so it was elevated and now well into good range. I think it was the weight loss that helped me more than the carbs so I’m another who managed to reduce the levels.

I hope you can get better information from your doctor and find a way forward

 

[ang]

Hi Andydragon, I had bloods done end of September and my ALT level is 22. All the rest of my Liver function tests were normal also on that test.

 

[Andydragon]

Hi Andydragon, I had bloods done end of September and my ALT level is 22. All the rest of my Liver function tests were normal also on that test.

So a major change in about 6 months?
Well try not to worry although I know much easier said than done and find out what the doctor says at the appointment

Fingers crossed for you

 

[LittleGreyCat]

it showed chronic liver disease due to fatty liver

It might help to point out that "chronic" doesn't mean serious, bad, dangerous or anything.
It just means that it is a long term condition instead of a short term condition like a cold.
A lot of medics don't realise that the punters don't understand all the terminology and this probably wasn't a serious or urgent matter for the GP - just something that needed to be discussed to review treatment.

I assume that you need to confirm that it is Non Alcoholic (you should know ).
Changing your eating habits should hopefully clear out your liver.
It could quite possibly clear out your pancreas as well if you are lucky.

 

[Andydragon]

It might help to point out that "chronic" doesn't mean serious, bad, dangerous or anything.
It just means that it is a long term condition instead of a short term condition like a cold.
A lot of medics don't realise that the punters don't understand all the terminology and this probably wasn't a serious or urgent matter for the GP - just something that needed to be discussed to review treatment.

I assume that you need to confirm that it is Non Alcoholic (you should know ).
Changing your eating habits should hopefully clear out your liver.
It could quite possibly clear out your pancreas as well if you are lucky.

You make a good point. Diabetes is a chronic condition too of course.

 

[ang]

Thnak you, you have all been reassuring, I feel a bit better about it all tonight. I rarely touch alcohol so I know it can't be alcohol related. I will let you know what the doctor says on Monday.

 

[ang]

So....a doctor from the surgery phoned me this morning(not the one that sent the blunt text). He says the scan shows fat infiltration of the liver so now I have to have a whole load of blood tests done for the liver and he is referring me for a fibroscan. He said that the scan did not show any damage to the liver but that this is standard tests to double check that nothing else is going on. He said that it is fatty liver disease but that it can be stopped in its tracks. He said to eat low carb, low fat, high protein,no sugar. Actually he said keep the carbs as low as possible. I was surprised that he has told me not to eat avacado at all(which i was eating until now). My question is, can I eat eggs(i forgot to ask the doctor) and also can I eat walnuts ? Does anybody know or does anyone have any other suggestions. All offers of advice greatly welcome.

 

[lucylocket61]

Eggs are good. As many as you like.

 

[oldgreymare]

So....a doctor from the surgery phoned me this morning(not the one that sent the blunt text). He says the scan shows fat infiltration of the liver so now I have to have a whole load of blood tests done for the liver and he is referring me for a fibroscan. He said that the scan did not show any damage to the liver but that this is standard tests to double check that nothing else is going on. He said that it is fatty liver disease but that it can be stopped in its tracks. He said to eat low carb, low fat, high protein,no sugar. Actually he said keep the carbs as low as possible. I was surprised that he has told me not to eat avacado at all(which i was eating until now). My question is, can I eat eggs(i forgot to ask the doctor) and also can I eat walnuts ? Does anybody know or does anyone have any other suggestions. All offers of advice greatly welcome.

It is great that you'll get follow up tests and that your doctor recommended low carb.

But surprised about the comment re avocados - these are usually considered especially friendly for liver health? Agree with @lucylocket61 that eggs are good. Walnuts in moderation.