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looking for a diebetic dietician...

GrahamE

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Hi all

Was trying to find if anyone knew of a good diebetic dietician in London, ideally East London? I'm recently diagnosed and getting nowhere with the NHS! Doctor refuses to refer me and just points me here instead! And finally when I found the local NHS diebetic dietician, it's a 4 month wait for an appointment!!

Any help greatfully appreciated! :o)

Cheers
Graham
 
Hi Graham and welcome to the forum.

Have you been given any dietary advice at all and have you been given a meter and test strips?

There is an article for newly diagnosed which will help you. Daisy usually posts this for newbies.
viewtopic.php?f=39&t=26870

You will find that management is an individual thing and there is no right or wrong way to gain control. Your meter is your best friend when deciding what you can and cannot eat and we all have different levels of carbohydrates that we can tolerate. You have to find an eating plan that you enjoy and can sustain. You might see someone with perfect control but their food choices are not to your liking so it would be difficult to maintain.

Ask as many questions as you like to help you. We all started off where you are now and needed some input from other diabetics.

It may transpire that you do not need the expense of a private dietitian. :thumbup:
 
Thanks for the reply. No I wasn't given a meter, they refused saying I didn't need one. So I just bought one instead. Yes, I totally understand everyone is different, that's why I'd like to see a dietitian :)

I went to a one day group course which was ok, bit like an AA type meeting! It was pretty useless in reality and I had already learnt more by reading the forums here! It's just such a mine field that I think I'd like a little one-to-one pro-advice... and it seems the NHS simply doesn't provide that at all...
 
GrahamE said:
Hi all

Was trying to find if anyone knew of a good diebetic dietician in London, ideally East London? I'm recently diagnosed and getting nowhere with the NHS! Doctor refuses to refer me and just points me here instead! And finally when I found the local NHS diebetic dietician, it's a 4 month wait for an appointment!!

Any help greatfully appreciated! :o)

Cheers
Graham
You have a very enlightened Dr :thumbup: You are unlikely to find a well-T2-informed dietitian at ANY price. The usual advice is a DUK diet based on starchy carbs, together with the info that diabetes is progressive if you follow their diet.

Follow the diet advice on this forum & hopefully you will get control of your condition & find that diabetes is not progressive. AND you won't have to wait 4 months.
 
Agree with above. You'll find the best advice from people that have diabetes; the people on here.
 
Cheers for the info. Reading through posts on diets here though, so much of it is conflicting. Don't eat bread, do eat bread, eat carbs, don't eat carbs... etc... :)

Since being diagnosed, I've been eating carbs - wholemeal pasta, rice, bread etc - porridge everyday and so on. And cutting down on fruit, which I used to eat a lot of. But many posts seem to suggest the opposite...
 
GrahamE said:
Cheers for the info. Reading through posts on diets here though, so much of it is conflicting. Don't eat bread, do eat bread, eat carbs, don't eat carbs... etc... :)

Since being diagnosed, I've been eating carbs - wholemeal pasta, rice, bread etc - porridge everyday and so on. And cutting down on fruit, which I used to eat a lot of. But many posts seem to suggest the opposite...

Up to you, but the dietician will just give you another slant, and you'll still not know. Fact is, you need to try different things and test to see what works for you. We're all different. Here's what works for me:-
In general terms you will need to reduce the total number of carbohydrates you eat per day. All carbohydrates turn to sugar when we eat them, and no type 2 diabetic on diet only, or on diet and metformin only, can control their blood sugars (BGs) without controlling their carb intake. Even those on strong medication normally choose to control their carb intake to keep the level of medication they take down. The total number of carbs per day you can eat depends on how advanced your diabetes is. It’s perhaps worth starting at about 50% of normal levels for a non-diabetic then adjusting up or down according to how you get on. So that means eating 150 grams of carbs per day for a man, 125 for a woman. You can read the total carb content of food under “nutritional info” on the packet or wrapping, or look it up on the internet for loose food. Just google “carb content..”
You also need to stop or reduce the bad carbs; that is the starchy ones that make your BG go up quickly.
So obviously no sugar or glucose! But also no white bread, white rice, pasta, flour products like pastry, cake and batter. You can eat a little basmati rice, wholewheat pasta or the tri-color pasta fusilli ones in small quantities. Boiled new potatos (again not too many) are OK but not old pots mashed, boiled or in their jackets. (Roast is not so bad, the fat slows their absorption and conversion to glucose in the blood) Amongst other veg, parsnips are about the worst for BG, and carrots not great but ok in smaller amounts.
Multi grain bread (not wholemeal) is not SO bad, but lots of us eat Burgen soya and linseed bread from tescos and sainsburys, although all bread should be in limited amounts.
All fruit has carbohydrates, and needs to be included in the amounts of carbs you eat in a day. For most people, bananas are about the worst for pushing our BG up and berries (like strawberries, raspberries etc) are the least bad.
No sweeties!
Exercise is important. I tend to exercise about an hour after eating when I know my BG will be peaking. This helps to bring it down quicker and further. I do ten minutes hard work on an exercise machine, but you could run up and down stairs for ten minutes or go for a brisk walk.
Returning to types of food and quantities of carbs - you can only find out how many you can eat by testing. Most type 2’s are not given access to testing equipment, so you should get your own – although try arguing with your Doc that you want to manage to NICE guideline blood sugar levels, and can’t do that without testing! If you have to buy a meter, they are cheap and most manufacturers will give them away for free. They make their money on the strips you have to use! So go for the meter with the cheapest testing strips. The SD Codefree available on the internet is about the cheapest at the moment. Some people test before and after eating, on waking (fasting test) and before bed. But if you have limited strips because of cost, the key to me is testing 2 hours after eating. If your BG is above, say, 7.8 at that stage, you need to cut down on the carb content the next time you have that meal. Test after various different meals and you soon get to see a pattern of what you can and can’t eat, and in what quantities. Keep careful records of what you ate and when, together with the result, so you can refer back at a later date. You can then reduce your testing. I said “below, say, 7.8” because NICE guidelines are below 8.5 but most of us think that’s a little high. 7.8 is the max. level at 2 hours after eating that a non-diabetic normally gets to so is perhaps a better target. Some then set progressively lower targets.
Do ask lots of questions; there is normally an answer on here. The more you get to learn about your diabetes, the better it will be.
Good luck!
 
thanks for the info. yes, i bought a testing machine so will start to note levels after diferent meals... trial and error i guess!

:)
 
A Diabetic Dietician? That's like looking for a Vegetarian Butcher.. :lol:
 
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