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Losing faith

MillieT

MillieT

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Location
Northamptonshire
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Other
When I go to my doctors and tell them i am trying this low carb diet as suggested on this forum, they say, they do not recognise this forum and i should be looking at diabetes.org. instead, i am told take everything with a pinch of salt from this forum only these are all personal stories and we are all different, i get that but they say, you must have some carbs, have yourself some porridge, it is very good for you, sadly, the last time i had a small bowl of the stuff it took me to 28mmol. which is a little more of a spike than i would like imho. I started on the tablets, metformin and gliclazide, very bad tummy and in the end i gave them up doing diet, now they say stay off them as i seem to be managing it well... But I wonder why i feel so ill all the time, light headed, losing my balance and my patience with everyone.

I am not working because i am ill, i have very little energy and always have something wrong like stomach ache, acid reflux, my anxiety is through the roof, ok i done well, 4th month after packing up smoking but am bleeding from my gums, i have pus coming from them and have been to the dentists several times and they keep just looking at me, getting me to sign their piece of paper and book me in for a deep clean.. 5th time now and all the appointments have been the same so my best guess it they are milking he nhs each time- for the same thing.. and it is 4 months now and i still have pus, this and packing up smoking, coughing up tar, not being able to eat much at all, not being taken seriously enough.

Plus I have a history of self harming though have been good for quite a few years now, but it would not be hard to just end it, be done with what i see as utter misery for the rest of my life which is cut short anyhow due to diabetes and whatever else is going on but unexplained and I am sure my gp's think of me as potty, and look, it is just about 4am, i did go to sleep from exhaustion at 12pm and have woken up with a very bad tummy, it feels like the worst bout of hunger pangs ever and does actually settle if i do eat something.. so i just had two slices of low carb bread as toast with marmite on. Trouble is, i tend to feel like this only an hour after eating say my dinner or breakfast. I shall probably doze off again soon enough only to get up again in a few hours.

Does anyone else feel like this, i am seriously not trying to be a miserable mare but i am feeling really rubbish and low right now, i just cannot remember the last time i felt well or even ok.
 
Hi miffli,

I feel very bad if my glucose is over 8 - want to sleep, angry, no energy, ...
I would concentrate at first to bring the BG down. I suppose a lot of your problems can dissapear as the BG will be under 8.

My wife sometimes does’nt argue with me just makes the order: go and check your BG!
 
is an interesting video IMO. & Professor Taylor recommended "Fizzy Water". Here in the USA doctors don't want you healthy they need an income stream of sick patients. Do your own due diligence.. GLTU..
 
Sounds like you need some help, beyond what a gp can provide.

I'd say you have received some horrible, poor advice from your doctors. Telling you porridge is good for you and yet it spikes you to 28... that's proof on your meter that what they are telling you is bad advice. Their opinion of this site clearly lacks any actual knowledge of how successful it has been in helping people on a large array of issues.

I hope you can get things back in order. Whenever I've gone through a period of bad levels, I find my mood drops and I get very irritable very easily. Some drugs can cause this also. Sometimes you just have to find a better doctor, I've done this. If you think you are not being listened to and not happy with the doctor you are seeing, then look around or ask around for another who is more supportive. It doesn't sound like you are happy with your current doctor.

Good luck.
 
The T2D journey can really rough. Sounds like you are going thru some really rough patch as your glucose fluctuates widely. Often times we don't realize how much impact glucose fluctuation have on our mood and general well being.

For a start I would suggest you measure your glucose levels more regularly to recognize if it is the highs or the lows that you are struggling with.

As you adjust your diet, it may take some time for the body to re-adjust to these new levels. So knowing how you feel at various glucose levels will help.
 
You do what's right for your body. No gp will question your diet with good health and good results.

Look forward to the surprise on his/her face when your blood results are gleaming!

You be confident in knowing you know your body's needs well.
Go surprise them!
 
My gums are a mess sometimes... Only thing that helps me is to floss, and rinse with diluted (or straight) hydrogen peroxide. Not nice, but it gets the job done for me. (Don't swollow!). Any mouthwash that kills bacteria would at least assist in getting your gums back to good. Getting bloodsugars down helped bigtime. Lchf worked for me. No meds. I know how you feel, and for me, taking care of myself is basically counter-intuitive... But I'm still hanging in there. I hope you will too. *hugs*
 
miffli said:
When I go to my doctors and tell them i am trying this low carb diet as suggested on this forum, they say, they do not recognise this forum and i should be looking at diabetes.org. instead, i am told take everything with a pinch of salt from this forum only these are all personal stories and we are all different, i get that but they say, you must have some carbs, have yourself some porridge, it is very good for you, sadly, the last time i had a small bowl of the stuff it took me to 28mmol. which is a little more of a spike than i would like imho. I started on the tablets, metformin and gliclazide, very bad tummy and in the end i gave them up doing diet, now they say stay off them as i seem to be managing it well... But I wonder why i feel so ill all the time, light headed, losing my balance and my patience with everyone.

I am not working because i am ill, i have very little energy and always have something wrong like stomach ache, acid reflux, my anxiety is through the roof, ok i done well, 4th month after packing up smoking but am bleeding from my gums, i have pus coming from them and have been to the dentists several times and they keep just looking at me, getting me to sign their piece of paper and book me in for a deep clean.. 5th time now and all the appointments have been the same so my best guess it they are milking he nhs each time- for the same thing.. and it is 4 months now and i still have pus, this and packing up smoking, coughing up tar, not being able to eat much at all, not being taken seriously enough.

Plus I have a history of self harming though have been good for quite a few years now, but it would not be hard to just end it, be done with what i see as utter misery for the rest of my life which is cut short anyhow due to diabetes and whatever else is going on but unexplained and I am sure my gp's think of me as potty, and look, it is just about 4am, i did go to sleep from exhaustion at 12pm and have woken up with a very bad tummy, it feels like the worst bout of hunger pangs ever and does actually settle if i do eat something.. so i just had two slices of low carb bread as toast with marmite on. Trouble is, i tend to feel like this only an hour after eating say my dinner or breakfast. I shall probably doze off again soon enough only to get up again in a few hours.

Does anyone else feel like this, i am seriously not trying to be a miserable mare but i am feeling really rubbish and low right now, i just cannot remember the last time i felt well or even ok.
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Hmm, lots of issues, write them down in a list form, and go back to your doctor's and discuss them as on your list. Pus leaking from your gums should be at the top. Good luck.
 
Bleeding gums are linked to diabetes, i was type 1 for 36 years and my gums would bleed all the time. My dentist that i needed to brush the gums more and yes they were bleeding it took about 6 weeks before the blood stopped and when i had a kidney and pancreas transplant they have never bled since. The way your GP is treating you is not on, i would ask to see someone from the hospital diabetic team and also someone from the mental health team. All of the problems are linked to diabetes and the GP has a duty of care to you and at the minute they are not giving you the support you need.
 
I gave up smoking after 25 years in December, my gums started bleeding soon after and culminated in one morning my whole sink was red. After an emergency appointment at the dentist I was told that apart from T2 causing bleeding gums, the giving up smoking was probably the cause because there is increased blood flow during the healing post smoking phase to gums.
 
Hey @miffli, first off, glad you felt you could post here and tell it like it is.....some good things are happening for you:1) you have given up smoking - that is huge and congratulations on that; 2) you haven't gone back to self harming - that is huge and congratulations on that - just being able to be vulnerable about that is an act of bravery; 3) you have identified that the professionals aren't listening to you or seem to really care about the physical state you find yourself in - time to check out - after you have found another Doc, of course! 4) You may be right about the dentist....that seems odd that he wouldn't recommend some other treatment....maybe try what some have suggested here; 5) you have a group here on the Forum who really care and want you to be the best you you can be - especially for yourself.....we don't take posts like this lightly and will try to be as helpful as we can be...so keep posting!

I think someone suggested that you write down all your issues and take that with you to an appointment - good advice - if you still feel neglected, can you call some authority and try to get something done? Exhausting and time consuming but may be worth it. Others will know better than I as I don't live in the UK - should I apologize for that??!!:)

I wonder if rinsing your mouth with a salt water solution would help ease your discomfort and a very, very soft toothbrush so as not to disrupt the gum too much and brush softly! It really seems that if you can get some relief, you could think more easily about what to eat.....an infection like this in your mouth can cause all kinds of problems with other systems, like digestion - some of that pus will be traveling down to your stomach, your cardiac status and so forth.....if nothing else, someone should be prescribing an antibiotic for you as well as a medicated mouthwash.

Sorry for the long post - I just feel for you and trust that you hang in there and persist on getting some answers - you are worth the effort! Don't forget that!! Blessings/L
 
Hi. Glad that your recognise the docs you've seen haven't a clue about the right diet for diabetes (or anyone?). Keep going with the low-carb diet. It sounds like your dentists aren't the best and aren't giving you good guidance. Make sure you have been prescribed Metformin SR (Slow Release) which is much kinder on the stomach than the plain variety Somehow you need to break the anxiety loop. Have you contacted any of the relevant charity's. I do volunteer work with Mind the mental health charity and my local group does a really good job so do see whether you have one locally.
 
Hi @miffli

This may seem a very weird question, but are you eating plenty of fresh fruit and veg?

Sore bleeding gums is a symptom of scurvy which is caused by lack of vitamin c. No amount of antibiotic treatments will cure a vitamin deficiency.

Obviously, I have no idea what you are eating, but you say you are hardly eating anything, so maybe you are low on fresh veg. Or my comments may be completely inappropriate. But if you aren’t eating enough fresh fruit and veg to give you your daily requirement of vitamin C then you could always take a supplement.

Here is a link to show which foods are high in C.
They are not all high carb. :)

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/amp.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20745689,00.html

Hope that helps!
 
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