Type 2 Low carb challenge

[briped]

Coffee

Coffee?!?! Who's the heathen here, priest? Hey, I did actually have a cup of coffee a couple of weeks ago. I always liked coffee/chocolate flavour together, so I dumped a square of dark chocolate into a coffee and added cream once it had melted. Quite nice, but I'm def a tea girl, or even better, a chai massala girl.

 

[briped]

after a month my bs began to rise and not come down

Ouch, that's a bit worrying.

11lb weight loss

Me too, since Jan 10th.

I'm not getting the more energy thing that people report - I do feel a bit more tired late afternoon

Me too, only I feel tired from when I wake up. Am wondering if I should get all my micronutrients checked out.

Numbers are between high 4s to mid 5s

Same here, only last night I got an "incredible high" of 6.1 before bed time. Won't complain.

I'm erring on the side of caution meds wise

Me too, but I feel its safer to reduce my meds when my numbers are in their 4s and 5s. Not going over board, but reduced my victoza from 1.2mg to 0.6 yesterday. Still taking my 2 x 500mg metformin.

 

[Brunneria]

All diet plans are generic (unless they are tailored and tweaked for you personally).

By that I mean that a diet sheet or recipe is produced for a fictional 'average' person.
They will have too big portions for a petite sedentary woman, and too small portions for a fit active young man of 6'4
It is just impossible to create a simple recipe that says '4 portions' without doing this.

All anyone needs to do is tweak the recipe as they cook it, or reduce the portions as they plate up.

When I did the Diet Doctor eating plan for a few months, I used to skip breakfast, then slide some of my lunch and evening portions onto Mr B's plate. Even at 3 meals a day, and eating a good third of my 2 meals a day, he still lost more weight than me. C'est la vie.

 

[Member496333]

Just to add that if you’re not too keen on dietary fat or can’t tolerate it for whatever reason then low-carb/keto is going to be a struggle in terms of energy. The fat is used as fuel in lieu of carbohydrate, so if you’re not consuming enough then you will feel lethargic and your overall health may suffer in the long term. You could try higher than normal protein to make up the energy shortfall but if you’re extremely insulin resistant then this may manifest in slightly raised fasting blood glucose. Obviously it’s multifactorial. In any case if you are feeling tired on low-carb then your diet almost certainly isn’t yet properly formulated for you.

 

[briped]

Just to add that if you’re not too keen on dietary fat or can’t tolerate it for whatever reason then low-carb/keto is going to be a struggle in terms of energy. The fat is used as fuel in lieu of carbohydrate, so if you’re not consuming enough then you will feel lethargic and your overall health may suffer in the long term. You could try higher than normal protein to make up the energy shortfall but if you’re extremely insulin resistant then this may manifest in slightly raised fasting blood glucose. Obviously it’s multifactorial. In any case if you are feeling tired on low-carb then your diet almost certainly isn’t yet properly formulated for you.

It seems that I've hijacked @Motherhen2014 s thread unintentionally. My apologies. If any mod feels like moving the relevant post and onwards to a thread of it's own, please feel free to do so.

@Jim Lahey I know you're right, but try as I may I simply can't see where I go wrong. I suspect I'm quite insulin resistant, so there's that. I hope that if I go no higher than 80g of fat/day it'll solve my tummy upset problem, which is what makes me go to sleep rather late, worrying I might have nocturnal episodes of said tummy upsets (sorry TMI). In other words, sleep 'resistance' could be part of the equation too. I post a screendump of yesterdays macro achievements. Maybe someone can see something that isn't glaringly obvious to me. Yesterday was one of the better days.

 

[Member496333]

I’m no expert on macros as I’ve never bothered with them but it looks like you have quite an energy shortfall there. Not enough fat. I know you don’t want to hear that but I’m not sure what else to suggest other than trying more protein. Many have no issue with extra protein so it’s worth trying.

 

[lovinglife]

Just to add that if you’re not too keen on dietary fat or can’t tolerate it for whatever reason then low-carb/keto is going to be a struggle in terms of energy. The fat is used as fuel in lieu of carbohydrate, so if you’re not consuming enough then you will feel lethargic and your overall health may suffer in the long term. You could try higher than normal protein to make up the energy shortfall but if you’re extremely insulin resistant then this may manifest in slightly raised fasting blood glucose. Obviously it’s multifactorial. In any case if you are feeling tired on low-carb then your diet almost certainly isn’t yet properly formulated for you.

I'm not struggling really - the fat I've reduced is in terms recipes with cream, Mayo and cheese replacing with recipes with olive oil and avocado, fatty meats etc - the tiredness is probably more to do with very long days and short nights sleep which can't be avoided - I usually try and have a short nap in the afternoon but not always possible. My point was more that I haven't had the massive boost of energy that others report - but I do agree with your point of You need fats for energy on a keto diet

 

[DCUKMod]

I have no idea how people embarked on their ways of eating, but for some people, jumping right into a ninja state (of virtually no carb, but high fat - or whatever way of eating), it can upset their systems.

I would wager that for some, if they paired back their fat levels (if that's the issue) to "calm" their bodily responses, then slowly adjust the fat (or whatever) intake.

That worked, to an extent, for me.