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Low Carb diet for pre diabetic
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I think if one starts to lose a lot of weight it is all over the body, also the fatty liver... but it is everybody´s own choice if they dare do the high-fat diet... I myself have still a lot of arguments with myself about it , which result in me not eating enough fat and still eating too many carbs and then there is no weight loss...
maybe your wife could try doing it only for 3 weeks and see if it gives her enough confidence to continue, but she must be strict about the low carb to see weight loss
maybe your wife could try doing it only for 3 weeks and see if it gives her enough confidence to continue, but she must be strict about the low carb to see weight loss
Terrytiddy
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Hi @Prussell and welcome to the group. I will tag @daisy1 so she can pass on some advice.
Has your wife spoken to Dr about a diet? She could try this diet : https://www.healthline.com/health/fatty-liver-diet. Or go with what @Freema has suggested.
Good luck
Has your wife spoken to Dr about a diet? She could try this diet : https://www.healthline.com/health/fatty-liver-diet. Or go with what @Freema has suggested.
Good luck
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pate de foie gras is produced from the fatty livers of geese force fed on grains - perhaps that is the most telling evidence of what not to eat.
The fat part of LCHF is the natural fat which comes with foods - the oily fish, the roast chicken - rather than the carefully filleted out cuts which are sold for high prices to those who think they are healthy foods. All the teaching about healthy low fat foods comes from carefully filtered 'facts' which are now being found to be generally untrue ones.
The fat part of LCHF is the natural fat which comes with foods - the oily fish, the roast chicken - rather than the carefully filleted out cuts which are sold for high prices to those who think they are healthy foods. All the teaching about healthy low fat foods comes from carefully filtered 'facts' which are now being found to be generally untrue ones.
Bluetit1802
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Dietary fat does not make you fat. It is carbs that make you fat. One food source that is especially bad for fatty livers is fruit because of the fructose it contains. (and any other form of fructose). Fructose is a major contributor to fatty livers. If she wants to reduce her fatty liver, she needs to seriously reduce carbs, alcohol, sugar and fruit.
I have been eating low carb for over a year now primarily to control my diabetes but as a consequence I have lost 5 stone 10lbs. I never dared stand on my husband’s fancy Tanita scales before (I wish I had so I had a comparison) However I got him to show me how to do it a week or so ago and it gave me a visceral fat reading of 9, below 12 is normal 
So I don’t think low carb dieting has done my liver any harm!
So I don’t think low carb dieting has done my liver any harm!
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Fat does not make you fat. Carbs make you fat and a high carb high unhealthy fat diet will keep you fat.
Healthy fat (that comes from natural sources such as meat, dairy and fruit oils) does not cause heart attacks or coronary heart disease etc. Dietary healthy fats provoke little response in terms of insulin, are a more efficient fuel for those with Pre D and T2, and will keep you fuller for longer. All of these things will aid weight loss.
I agree with that already said, fructose (in fruit and table sugar) should be severely limited or cut out altogether so that the liver is able to empty its stores of fat. This does not have to be permanent, small quantities of fruit could be reintroduced once fatty liver has improved.
In my opinion, unhealthy fats such as vegetable (seed) oils should be used very sparingly or cut completely.
Healthy fat (that comes from natural sources such as meat, dairy and fruit oils) does not cause heart attacks or coronary heart disease etc. Dietary healthy fats provoke little response in terms of insulin, are a more efficient fuel for those with Pre D and T2, and will keep you fuller for longer. All of these things will aid weight loss.
I agree with that already said, fructose (in fruit and table sugar) should be severely limited or cut out altogether so that the liver is able to empty its stores of fat. This does not have to be permanent, small quantities of fruit could be reintroduced once fatty liver has improved.
In my opinion, unhealthy fats such as vegetable (seed) oils should be used very sparingly or cut completely.
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@Prussell
Hello Prussell and welcome to the Forum Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful and interesting. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.
BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS
Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.
A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.
On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.
The role of carbohydrate
Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.
If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.
The bad news
Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.
The good news
People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.
Controlling your carbs
The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.
The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.
Choosing better carbohydrates
The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.
Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.
Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.
Eating what works for you
Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.
To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.
The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:
Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.
You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.
Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.
Hello Prussell and welcome to the Forum
Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful and interesting. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS
Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.
A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.
On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.
The role of carbohydrate
Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.
If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.
The bad news
Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.
The good news
People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.
Controlling your carbs
The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
- Reduce your carbohydrate intake
- Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.
The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.
Choosing better carbohydrates
The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.
Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.
Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.
Eating what works for you
Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.
To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.
The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:
Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
- Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
- structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
- self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education
Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.
You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.
Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.
- Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
- Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
