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and your original statement claiming DUk advocates a 130g regime was true was it! Just an innocent mistake on your part with no motive attached to it what so ever...
I gave links to my facts showing your assertion was wrong and you got p****d off is probably nearer the truth.
You cannot deny that the information that the ADA think GI is secondary to carb counting is a fact the link I posted clearly comes from their site.
It is perfectly true that the Swedes advocate a range of restricted carb regimes in their national health care document "Kost Vid Diabetes" They even accept ketogenic regimes under hcp supervision so I have nothing to retract there.
I also know many T2 diabetics who sit happily in that 120 to 180g range as well as many who have to do less. The point is even 180 is far less than the 300g a day that DUK states is the requirement in the position statements I gave links to.
Bored of your games now...
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douglas said.
"I always said, I have no problems with anyone deciding to LC, I probably will one day."
Sooner is always better than later. Reduce medication and preserve the pancreas.
FB
I agree. I find it surprising that DUK fail to understand that eating fewer foods that raise your BGs, gives you better BGs.The diet they advocate one very high in glucose. I've yet to hear an explanation of how it could possible "work" in the first place.
The fact is most type 2s arnt given supplies to measure their individual tolerance of carbs, or the education or to use/interperate results. Many come here after having bought their own supplies and then learn that there is a diet where none of that matters. But, for some following that diet long term may/may not have an adverse effect on other things but keep blood levels under control. Think that was party of the op, that duk are not conducting long term trials on this. Is it because that for some following the recommended diet would drastically reduce their original carb consumption and be alot healthier than their current one. But, are there slim,fit, healthy type 2s who dont overeat yes, of course. what percentage though, is it a case of help the many sod the few.
Obviously in the scheme of things the few are many but, still then some of those are the slim,fit healthy type 2s simply mis diagnosed ladas,type 1s, who are able to cope on diet/meds alone?.
have the slim,fit, type2s got a vast amount of insulin resistance or a vast amount of lost insulin production who would be better of on insulin anyway?
How many slim,fit, healthy type 2s are then left?
What could they do other than inject a vast amount of insulin,loads of meds that could cause a great deal more harm or low carb?
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The fact is most type 2s arnt given supplies to measure their individual tolerance of carbs, or the education or to use/interperate results. Many come here after having bought their own supplies and then learn that there is a diet where none of that matters. But, for some following that diet long term may/may not have an adverse effect on other things but keep blood levels under control. Think that was party of the op, that duk are not conducting long term trials on this. Is it because that for some following the recommended diet would drastically reduce their original carb consumption and be alot healthier than their current one. But, are there slim,fit, healthy type 2s who dont overeat yes, of course. what percentage though, is it a case of help the many sod the few.
Obviously in the scheme of things the few are many but, still then some of those are the slim,fit healthy type 2s simply mis diagnosed ladas,type 1s, who are able to cope on diet/meds alone?.
have the slim,fit, type2s got a vast amount of insulin resistance or a vast amount of lost insulin production who would be better of on insulin anyway?
How many slim,fit, healthy type 2s are then left?
What could they do other than inject a vast amount of insulin,loads of meds that could cause a great deal more harm or low carb?
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what would be needed is a low carb movement where we all agree to lobby them, looking at this forum, each time someone says something good about low carb you have someone else rubbishing it, what could be gained from listening to us?
What works for you should be enough. Why do you care if it's scientifically accepted ? We're all different and hopefully have the intelligence to have tested different foods and exercise and
lifestyle which works for us. Just because my particular diet is not advocated by DUK does not bother me
In the slightest !
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what would be needed is a low carb movement where we all agree to lobby them
i wouldnt mind them having my records, ive probly published them all here by now anyway lol
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