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LOW CARB, LOW CARB, LOW CARB

AdamAdam

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Just a reminder to diabetics- their is no way to even attempt to control BS's except on a low carb diet! Don't worry there aren't any essential carb's so you wont be missing out on any essential nutrition.
 
AdamAdam said:
Just a reminder to diabetics- their is no way to even attempt to control BS's except on a low carb diet!
Not quite true, You can succumb to the profusion of drugs/insulin (more or less essential for type 1's in the long term). However given that D is the inabilty to deal effectively with carbs, reduced or even low carbing can help reduce the need for insulin and insulin system control drugs.
AdamAdam said:
Don't worry there aren't any essential carb's so you wont be missing out on any essential nutrition.
True, we can create required carbs by Gluconeogenesis :D
 
FergusCrawford said:
AdamAdam said:
Just a reminder to diabetics- their is no way to even attempt to control BS's except on a low carb diet!
Not quite true, You can succumb to the profusion of drugs/insulin (more or less essential for type 1's in the long term). However given that D is the inabilty to deal effectively with carbs, reduced or even low carbing can help reduce the need for insulin and insulin system control drugs.
AdamAdam said:
Don't worry there aren't any essential carb's so you wont be missing out on any essential nutrition.
True, we can create required carbs by Gluconeogenesis :D

Agree. I sometimes feel that however good low carbing is for us it could lead to a very boring life with the Christmas season coming up.
 
Engineer88 said:
FergusCrawford said:
AdamAdam said:
Just a reminder to diabetics- their is no way to even attempt to control BS's except on a low carb diet!
Not quite true, You can succumb to the profusion of drugs/insulin (more or less essential for type 1's in the long term). However given that D is the inabilty to deal effectively with carbs, reduced or even low carbing can help reduce the need for insulin and insulin system control drugs.
AdamAdam said:
Don't worry there aren't any essential carb's so you wont be missing out on any essential nutrition.
True, we can create required carbs by Gluconeogenesis :D

Agree. I sometimes feel that however good low carbing is for us it could lead to a very boring life with the Christmas season coming up.

Agree. No pasta-spuds-rice-white bread how can we get through Christmas without it? :lol:

FB
 
I agree low carb is definately the easiest way forward - less room for error with insulin injections, however you still need to take insulin to keep BG down, I know when I eat say Egg Foo Yung that I need at least a couple of units of insulin as my body converts protein to sugar - well it's gotta get it's energy from somewhere !!! I've found by eliminating carbs also means I don't get carb cravings anymore, and feel full for longer so less likley to snack or binge on **** food which raises my BG sky high, also means less hypos too, so only get 1-2 a week now. I'm going to shut up now as I sound like i'm selling a new diet fad !!

However each to his own - i'm not going to preach, what works for one may not another, and that's where good old carb counting kicks in, get the units right and can eat what you like (within reason of course..!)
 
Is it just me who thinks maybe this shouldnt be in the type one forum? no matter how low carb we go we still need insulin and we can control Bgs with moderate carbs and insulin.... I just dont get it? :***:
 
Engineer88 said:
Is it just me who thinks maybe this shouldnt be in the type one forum? no matter how low carb we go we still need insulin and we can control Bgs with moderate carbs and insulin.... I just dont get it? :***:


No I disagree, Adam is a type 1 who follows the Bernstein diet which works for him, he's every right to have his thoughts even though he is wrong that you can only control BS's on a Berstein style diet.
 
Exactly, yes, every right to express opinion but by implying the only way to control type 1 is through low carbing is wrong. If a newly diagnosed person would see that, they may take it to be true.

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Rhubarb, rhubarb, rhubarb
(quite low carb but contains carbs none the less)

My recipe for a good life with diabetes isn't quite so succinct but works for me.

  • The right amount of insulin (this is a T1 section)
    A wide variety of foods with a daily diet appropriate for my lifestyle, not forgetting the importance for mental wellbeing of 'festive' meals in company.
    Sufficient exercise.
    Being determined to not let diabetes stop me from living life to the full
Carnivores can synthesize vitamin C. We can't synthesise vitamin C, an essential nutrient.
Where does a totally non carbohydrate eating person get sufficient vitamin C from? (even if they get sufficient from liver, that also contains carbohydrates)
Which brings us back to the rhubarb

Tell this lady her carbs aren't essential, she certainly does well on them, as do the T1s in the other videos on this page.
http://litu.dlife.com/dlifetv/video/ult ... -missy-foy
 
phoenix said:
Rhubarb, rhubarb, rhubarb
(quite low carb but contains carbs none the less)

My recipe for a good life with diabetes isn't quite so succinct but works for me.

The right amount of insulin (this is a T1 section)
A wide variety of foods with a daily diet appropriate for my lifestyle, not forgetting the importance for mental wellbeing of 'festive' meals in company.
Sufficient exercise.
Being determined to not let diabetes stop me from living life to the full

Carnivores can synthesize vitamin C. We can't synthesise vitamin C, an essential nutrient.
Where does a totally non carbohydrate eating person get sufficient vitamin C from? (even if they get sufficient from liver, that also contains carbohydrates)
Which brings us back to the rhubarb

Who on this forum says no carb? Rhubarb is a good-low carb-low cal food and good source of vit c. Thanks for the tip.

FB
 
brett said:
Exactly, yes, every right to express opinion but by implying the only way to control type 1 is through low carbing is wrong. If a newly diagnosed person would see that, they may take it to be true.

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Bret, thank you for this; I am a newly diagnosed type1/1.5 and currently eating very low carb and almost beside myself that my blood sugars are rising daily. Feel like I'm doing something wrong; feel awful in fact.
 
Don't forget saturated fat. Since my diet modification over a month ago I have been in dreamland with my B/S. Based on my readings ,since dropping saturated fat from diet, my average B/S has been around ~ 4.6 mmol and a vast reduction in insulin requirements/improved insulin sensitivity.

These results also include the winter insomnia which hits me every year around this time (something I still can't sort out despite numerous visits to a psychiatrist , a SAD lampe and countless anti depressants :-( ) Last year a bad nights sleep played havoc with my readings this time around no impact , only that awful feeling of having slept only 2 - 3 hours every night.
 
Hey Adam that might work for you and that's fine but you certainly control you BG levels and very well too if you eat carbs. For example I'm a 23 year old male just over 6ft2 and weighing 82kgs. I eat on average 250g of carbs on an average day and could eat up to 350g of carbs on an exercising day and I maintain very tight and good control. So what works for you might not work for other and the other way around.....we are all different and unique!!


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Artemis,
you need the diet that works for you and your lifestyle.
You will need to learn about using your insulin, if you're having problems maybe you might want to start another thread about that When I was first diagnosed I read a piece by a French consultant writing for T1 diabetics
'The advice for a diabetic today should be the model for all people. Nothing is formally forbidden, certain must be merely consumed moderately.'
There is no doubt that a diet high in lots of sugars and processed carbohydrates and fats isn't healthy for anyone . if someone's normal diet contains a lot of these then they'd probably be advised to cut a lot of these things out but that's a world away from having to adopt a very low carb diet .

I eat a very mixed diet, I try to eat a balanced one. I'm able to take part in lots of activities including long distance running (I'm now also almost an OAP but still keeping very active) Other people manage their diabetes in other ways.


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