Low fat spreads

[DENNIS97]

I am recently diagnosed prediabetic.
Just watched #4 of low carb program and "low fat spreads" are listed as bad. A list of low fat spreads would be helpful and why are they bad?

 

[hankjam]

I suggest any low fat spread is likely to be a highly processed product, with a number additives to make the palatable due to the low fat.
Most LCHF round here go for full fat everything.
I go for Kerrygold butter, grass fed cows.

 

[DENNIS97]

I suggest any low fat spread is likely to be a highly processed product, with a number additives to make the palatable due to the low fat.
Most LCHF round here go for full fat everything.
I go for Kerrygold butter, grass fed cows.

Thanks, makes sense but how do you get that past your GP or cardiologist? Here, in Canada, our medical people are still dead set against fat (other than plant of course).

 

[hankjam]

You need to go carefully.
For myself, I have high lipids and been on and off statins for the last 8 years, now off as they all seem to affect my liver function tests... so my Doc and I have an understanding about trying to reduce my lipids by diet.... it's work in progress.
Only a proportion of your blood lipid profile is down to what you eat... which makes all pretty tricky.
There's quite a strong point of view, which suggests lipids have got a bad press from bad science...
Time will tell.

 

[DENNIS97]

I assume then that your Doc also agreed to full-fat (or are you doing that "under the radar"). .
After being on statins for over 20 years, I have now been put on Ezetrol (removes cholesterol from stomach) even though, as you say, what one eats causes only a small percentage of the cholesterol found in the blood stream. We have been on and off low fat products for years but still don't know what is best. But, as you also remark, there is mounting evidence that fats have been given a bad rap and it was sugars all along. We are convinced that our food pyramid, promoted by the Government, is completely wrong (way to many carbs) and that we have had 20 - 30 years of bad advice.

 

[hankjam]

Doc's pleased with my BG's, weight lose and BP on LCHF so she's going with it and we're keeping an open mind on it at the moment. Not sure my position will change and if her's does we are likely to have an interesting discussion.
Not doubt about it though, sugar is a bad thing and not really necessary for enjoying the taste of food as it is.

 

[Lamont D]

As a personal point of view and experience.
I was on a low fat, carb diet that I was advised over many years, that according to all the recommended expert dietary advice.
I always gained weight and my health was rapidly going from bad to worse.
I switched to animal fats for cooking and eating, ditched everything low fat, eat very low carb and then the weight fell off and my health improved by leaps and bounds.
My health is excellent after losing five stones and eating very low carb and eating more fats than I used to
I have full fat yoghurt every evening and I have no problems with that.
If you take apart a low fat yoghurt, you will find lots of different types of sugars to make the product taste better. It will be these production sugars that will give you a spike that you don't need!

 

[chalup]

Thanks, makes sense but how do you get that past your GP or cardiologist? Here, in Canada, our medical people are still dead set against fat (other than plant of course).

Hi there, I am in Canada too. Why do you feel you have to get foods "under the radar" ? It is your body and your decisions as to what you do with it or put in it. Have a read around the forum and I do recommend some serious time put into reading a lot of threads both old and new. There are many low carbers here but also many that are not so low carb. This is the best place I have found for people who recognize we are each unique and that we all do things the way that works best for us. People here are awesome about answering any questions you might have. You are right about the dietary advice given over the last 30 or more years and still being shovelled today. It is wrong and based on bad or no science and fuelled largely by the food industry. Google how margarine is made and watch a video showing it. I guarantee you will never eat it again. It sounds from your post that you have worked hard to follow your doctors advice and live healthy but here you are with diabetes. I would not question yourself but I would question the advice given. Just my opinion and welcome to the forum.

 

[DENNIS97]

As a personal point of view and experience.
I was on a low fat, carb diet that I was advised over many years, that according to all the recommended expert dietary advice.
I always gained weight and my health was rapidly going from bad to worse.
I switched to animal fats for cooking and eating, ditched everything low fat, eat very low carb and then the weight fell off and my health improved by leaps and bounds.
My health is excellent after losing five stones and eating very low carb and eating more fats than I used to
I have full fat yoghurt every evening and I have no problems with that.
If you take apart a low fat yoghurt, you will find lots of different types of sugars to make the product taste better. It will be these production sugars that will give you a spike that you don't need!/QUOTE]

 

[DENNIS97]

Hi there, I am in Canada too. Why do you feel you have to get foods "under the radar" ? It is your body and your decisions as to what you do with it or put in it. Have a read around the forum and I do recommend some serious time put into reading a lot of threads both old and new. There are many low carbers here but also many that are not so low carb. This is the best place I have found for people who recognize we are each unique and that we all do things the way that works best for us. People here are awesome about answering any questions you might have. You are right about the dietary advice given over the last 30 or more years and still being shovelled today. It is wrong and based on bad or no science and fuelled largely by the food industry. Google how margarine is made and watch a video showing it. I guarantee you will never eat it again. It sounds from your post that you have worked hard to follow your doctors advice and live healthy but here you are with diabetes. I would not question yourself but I would question the advice given. Just my opinion and welcome to the forum.

Sorry about the misunderstanding. That comment was a joke for hankjam. I just wondered if he had managed to get his Doc to agree to high fats... I am following a low carb approach and don't worry much about the fats. Losing weight and hoping that the next a1c will be better.

 

[Kristin251]

You need to go carefully.
For myself, I have high lipids and been on and off statins for the last 8 years, now off as they all seem to affect my liver function tests... so my Doc and I have an understanding about trying to reduce my lipids by diet.... it's work in progress.
Only a proportion of your blood lipid profile is down to what you eat... which makes all pretty tricky.
There's quite a strong point of view, which suggests lipids have got a bad press from bad science...
Time will tell.

How many carbs do you eat Hank? Carbs and saturated fat raise my CHO . Since replacing lots of saturated fats with plant fats such as avocado and a few nuts all my ratios are ideal.

Kerry gold? Best butter ever. The ONLY butter as far as I'm concerned. Don't eat it often but when I do it's a party in my mouth

 

[hankjam]

How many carbs do you eat Hank? Carbs and saturated fat raise my CHO . Since replacing lots of saturated fats with plant fats such as avocado and a few nuts all my ratios are ideal.

Kerry gold? Best butter ever. The ONLY butter as far as I'm concerned. Don't eat it often but when I do it's a party in my mouth

I'm not sure how low carb I am. I don't eat flour based foods, rice or potato, just meat and veg really. Not eating as much cheese as I used to.
Have at least one avocado a day and a 15 mls of rapeseed oil before breakfast. Only eat meat in the evening and two of those are fish....
and a quite a few nuts. macadamia nut of choice at the moment and they are a lot cheaper than they used to be.