Thanks Vern. As someone who has spent their adult life trying to lose weight, I am conditioned to choose the low fat version of everything! As I am several stones overweight this obviously doesn't work for me!!! I am trying to low carb although I am still eating a couple of new potatoes and porridge oats most days, oh and dark rye ryvita. I am avoiding bread and crisps which I love. I am also walking 3 miles most days.