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Metamorphin: HBA1C Above 15

Kris80

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Hello

I am of Type-2 (HBA1C above 15) and my BG went up to above 20. So, The GP suggested Metamorphin very recently started 4 days back. I am 35 years SLIM male and never thought that this disease will attacks me. I am really worried because of its life risk. What should I eat now, How many days I will still live etc...

Can someone please advise me or share your thoughts ?
 
Hi BH,
First thing is don't panic, it seems really bad at first but everything will eventually fall into place.

You have also come to the right place for help on this Forum

@daisy1 will be along soon with a long list of information for you which will seem daunting at the beginning but is exceptionally helpful

There will be lots of others to come and help also, so hang in there have look around the forum and ask as many questions as you like.

Neil
 
Hello and welcome.

Yes, your bs levels are high but please don't panic. You can control this with a suitable diet. Many people on the forum had higher levels, but with effort and diet they have got them under control.

Please have a good read of this thread http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/a-new-low-carb-guide-for-beginners.68695/ which has a lot of excellent information on it, compiled by members of this forum. You will see that it is essential to reduce the amount of carbohydrates you eat, especially bread, rice, potatoes, pasta, pastry and batter. We also need to be careful with fruit and milk, and of course avoid everything sugary.

Take some deep breaths, you can do this. Please stay posting and ask as many questions as you wish.
 
when i was first diagosed, i carried on eating anything and everything. bad move
when i joined here, i asked lots of questions and got plenty of replies and good support
the main thing is to cut your carbs and sugar
in the beginning, my levels were in the low 30.s and on average now are 7,s
 
Hello and welcome.

Yes, your bs levels are high but please don't panic. You can control this with a suitable diet. Many people on the forum had higher levels, but with effort and diet they have got them under control.

Please have a good read of this thread http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/a-new-low-carb-guide-for-beginners.68695/ which has a lot of excellent information on it, compiled by members of this forum. You will see that it is essential to reduce the amount of carbohydrates you eat, especially bread, rice, potatoes, pasta, pastry and batter. We also need to be careful with fruit and milk, and of course avoid everything sugary.

Take some deep breaths, you can do this. Please stay posting and ask as many questions as you wish.

Hi,

Thanks for reply. I eat porridge in my breakfast and after 1 hour when I checked my BG went upto 15. Really worried now.
 
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Porridge is not good, too many carbs. What was your BG before eating? The usual yardstick is to measure spikes at 2 hours after starting to eat - ideally try to make sure the increase is no more than 2 mmol/l.
 
@bh.hari.krishna @daddys1

Hello BH and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members to the forum and I hope you will find it useful and reassuring. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will help, as you have already seen.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi and welcome.
I've only been diagnosed for 2 weeks so I'm still very new to diabetes, the news and the reality of it all is still quite raw.

For me, (but maybe not you) the answer is looking at labels on food packaging and cutting down the carbohydrate I eat, (although I've discovered I need to eat some) I found that my favourite food (cereal) was very high in carbohydrate, so I've had to find a different breakfast, the trouble is, it has to be quick and easy because when I'm back at work I don't have the time in the morning for a long breakfast, my point is you may have to make changes.

The people on here are really good and some of the links they put up take you to good informative websites.

Dave
 
Hi All,

FBG today morning 6.7 ....Is this good or still to do some diet and exercise to get around 5 ?
Hi again...just picked up the early posts, as my learned colleagues have already said DON'T PANIC.
Porridge NO SURPRISE numbers are high...big carbs....check what you ate against your readings and adjust...see my numbers below from my early days.....only just over 2 months since diagnosis....
 
Hi again...just picked up the early posts, as my learned colleagues have already said DON'T PANIC.
Porridge NO SURPRISE numbers are high...big carbs....check what you ate against your readings and adjust...see my numbers below from my early days.....only just over 2 months since diagnosis....

Hi,
Thanks for reply.

I am still trying different foods to see which one is good for me. Can someone please suggest which breakfast is good in general? I will follow from tomorrow and see how my BG behaves.

Thanks,
 
Hi,
Thanks for reply.

I am still trying different foods to see which one is good for me. Can someone please suggest which breakfast is good in general? I will follow from tomorrow and see how my BG behaves.

Thanks,

Bacon and eggs, tomatoes, mushrooms. Eggs cooked any which way. Plain Greek yogurt with a few berries thrown in. Cold meats. Cheese.
 
Hi,
Thanks for reply.

I am still trying different foods to see which one is good for me. Can someone please suggest which breakfast is good in general? I will follow from tomorrow and see how my BG behaves.

Thanks,
Hi and welcome!

Are you vegetarian? And do you have any special dietary preferences? No eggs? That kind of thing?
I ask because your chosen name suggests that you may not eat meat.

If that is the case, it will affect our suggestions for your food choices.

:)
 
Hi and welcome!

Are you vegetarian? And do you have any special dietary preferences? No eggs? That kind of thing?
I ask because your chosen name suggests that you may not eat meat.

If that is the case, it will affect our suggestions for your food choices.

:)
Hi Brunneria,

Yes, I am vegetarian but will eat only eggs. Sometimes chicken :) outside but we dont prepare in home. I started eating both raw and cooked vegetables either during lunch or dinner time with bit of fruits for now.

I am planning to eat Omlet daily in the breakfast (if that's my only option ?) but again not sure if I eat daily the same ...will it effect my BG levels !

Thanks
 
Hi Brunneria,

Yes, I am vegetarian but will eat only eggs. Sometimes chicken :) outside but we dont prepare in home. I started eating both raw and cooked vegetables either during lunch or dinner time with bit of fruits for now.

I am planning to eat Omlet daily in the breakfast (if that's my only option ?) but again not sure if I eat daily the same ...will it effect my BG levels !

Thanks
Try and see. Egg wont affect your blood sugar levels that much at all its mainly protein.I have one egg every one morning without fail. But that's ME see how it affects YOU...in my SALADS I have avacado, red onions, red cabbage, shimla red peppers, olives, broccoli, french green beans, lettuce, spinach, rocket, radish,kale, balsam vinegar dressings,....cheese,,,,salmon,,,,glenryck pilchards in tomato sauce.....yummy....mix and match as you prefer
 
Hi, and Seasonal Greetings! :D

Well, my favourite veggie brekkie options include the following, but I am sure that other people will be along with even more...

Eggs, cooked however you like, but omelette is great because you can include vegetables.
Full fat Greek yoghurt with berries (this yoghurt is unsweetened and has fewer carbs than the low fat fruity varieties, and berries are the lowest carb fruits)
Cheese
Cheese with veg
Coffee with cream (cream has fewer carbs than milk, and is more filling. Sometimes this is all I have for breakfast)
Crustless quiche

Also, absolutely everything diabetic friendly that you would eat at any other time. :)

You already have a blood glucose test meter. Do you have enough strips to test several times a day? Before you eat, and then again 2 hours later?

If you do that, and the reading has risen more that 2.0 mmol/l then there was too much carbohydrate in the meal. But all you have to do is have the same meal again, replacing the carbs with more veg, eggs, cheese, soya, quorn or lentils/pulses/nuts and seeds. Eventually, you will work out exactly how much carbohydrate your body can tolerate. :)

In the meantime, have a look at this lovely thread, for some fabulous vegetarian low carb recipes.
 
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