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Metformin question

stevek100

Newbie
Hi everyone

First timer here so be gentle with me please.

Was diagnosed with Type 2 back in the summer and have been on 4 times 500mg tablets daily. I have had none of the bad side effects to date.
But two or three weeks ago I was getting stomach cramps and really bad foul smelling wind and changing diet did not work. So I reduced the tablets to three a day and suddenly within a couple of days I am much better.

Now since being diagnosed I have lost about a stone and was wondering if my body does not need such a high dosage now. Doctor says keep on taking them but the pain and discomfort is quite bad.

Hba1c is just over 7 so thats under control.

Any suggestions or ideas welcome.

Thank you
 
Hi Steve and welcome to the forum :)

Members on Metformin will be here soon to answer your questions. Metformin however does have side effects including stomach problems which sound like what you are going through at the moment. The Slow Release version could be better for you as it is kinder to your stomach.

Here is some general information which we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Carry on asking questions and members will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi. If the Metformin isn't the Slow Release (SR) version then you might want to ask your GP to change to it as it will have less effect on the stomach. Diet and exercise remain the biggest influence on blood sugar level so reducing the Metformin won't make a big difference but do discuss with the GP. If you don't already have meter do get one as you can then see how your sugar levels are doing and what foods affect you most. You need to get your HBa1c below 7 if possible.
 
The philosophy of my nurse is that she is not here to make matters worse. When I had a Metformin problem I described it to her and she reduced the dose to one I could tolerate.

Also if I have an intolerable side effect to medication I take executive action and discuss it with her later or over the phone if urgent. So far she and I have got along fine with this arrangement.
 
I have found that metformin has a more drastic effect on my insides if I don't take it with food. So for example if I go out for dinner and forget to take them with me, then have them later when I get home they upset my stomach the next morning. If I take them with or straight after food they don't seem to have a negative impact.
 
I've just (with approval from my GP) dropped my Metformin down to 3 x 500mg a day instead of 4.
This is to try and reduce the slight gut pain and need to use the bathroom at inconvenient times!
 
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