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Marcus1234

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Type of diabetes
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Hi All,

I'm very recently diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and I have so many questions, so my apologies if these questions have already been answered in previous threads. I've read a lot of threads but not them all.

Here goes.

What will the nurse do when I visit her on Wednesday for my first appointment, I believe she will discuss diet and book me appointments for eye test and my feet to be checked.
Why will my eyes and feet be checked
What other appointments will I have to attend
Can I get a free glucose meter or do I have to buy one, same with the test strips and lances.
What are the best free apps to monitor diabetes.
Does diabetes cause oily skin and face spots.
Does diabetes cause appetite loss.
Is high cholesterol, raised liver enzymes and diabetes related.

There is so much going around my head I cant think straight, I was diagnosed on Wednesday this week.

Many thanks
 
Hi I was diagnosed 12 days ago and nurse appointment same day as you.

I know my blood suffrage was 17.3 but no idea of my hb1ac yet

I am guessing advice, weight, questions, I have a long list
An education course was mentioned so I guess I’ll hear that also
I asked on here about meters and @Bluetit1802 has apost about these. I ordered one and it came the next day
I am logging readings on mySugr app, which seems great and comes recommended

Every time you think of something, write it down for the nurse

Good luck from a fellow newbie
 
Hi I was diagnosed 12 days ago and nurse appointment same day as you.

I know my blood suffrage was 17.3 but no idea of my hb1ac yet

I am guessing advice, weight, questions, I have a long list
An education course was mentioned so I guess I’ll hear that also
I asked on here about meters and @Bluetit1802 has apost about these. I ordered one and it came the next day
I am logging readings on mySugr app, which seems great and comes recommended

Every time you think of something, write it down for the nurse

Good luck from a fellow newbie
Thanks Nikkie.
I got my hb1ac results back 58. I've not heard of good suffrage?
I will look at bluetit link for free monitor and see if I can get one, I already bought a monitor but would like something that can sync with comp. Struggling at mo to find a decent app to log my sugar readings on.
Doctor prescribed me metaforim which I start tomorrow.
I've already got a list for the nurse and keep adding to it.
Good luck too.
 
Hi @Marcus1234 welcome to the site,
There is a lot to take in isn’t there and asking questions is good. You will hopefully get lots of replies, there will be similarities and some differences of opinion, we are all individuals and there is not a one size fits all solution, my advice to you is, ask the questions then read the responses you get, you can then make informed choices.
To answer some of your questions I will use my experience, please bear in mind others may provide something different.
My first appointment with the nurse consisted of being weighed, blood pressure taken, diet advice given, offered an appointment to attend a diabetic information course, referral for eye screening, medication if appropriate will be discussed
The eye screening is to look for changes to your eyes that can only be detected by having special photographs taken, it doesn’t take long but can be a little uncomfortable for a few hours
Your feet are checked for signs of damage, blisters or sores that aren’t healing and a sensitivity test, they are checking for loss of sensation which could indicate nerve damage
Blood glucose monitoring will more than likely be glossed over if you are type 2, I chose to ignore this advice and purchased a monitor @Bluetit1802 has some very useful links hopefully she will see this post and pop up with help on this
@daisy1 will also send you the information that all new members here are given, it’s full of useful information
As already mentioned many of us use mySugr it’s a great app that you record your BG levels into and can give a pretty good estimation of your HBA1C level
Hopefully some of your initial questions have been answered, please keep asking, we are all willing to help, motivate and support you, you are not alone here, good luck
 
I think I may have already given the meter info on another thread for @Marcus1234 but here it is again in case I haven't.

The most popular meters for self funding T2's are the Codefree and the Tee2 because the strips are much cheaper than other meters, and you need a lot of strips. You can't buy them in pharmacies.

Try here for the Codefree meter
http://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/blood-glucose-monitor/

and here for the extra strips
http://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/sd-codefree-test-strips-to-be-used-only-with-the-sd-monitor/

There are discount codes if you buy in bulk. (applied at the check out stage)
5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833

The Tee2 is here and the meter is free.

http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product-category/shop/tee2/

Don’t forget to check the box that you have diabetes so you can buy VAT free. (for either meter)
 
I have never suffered with spots etc, but for the last year or so I have found my skin is beautifully soft and supple, which I think is down to the LCHF diet.
The drug often given to type two diabetics, Metformin, can cause loss of appetite amongst other things.
Type two diabetics can suffer from liver problems due to a fatty liver, but high cholesterol can result from losing weight, as the molecules are used to move fat around in the bloodstream.
 
Hi @Marcus1234 welcome to the site,
There is a lot to take in isn’t there and asking questions is good. You will hopefully get lots of replies, there will be similarities and some differences of opinion, we are all individuals and there is not a one size fits all solution, my advice to you is, ask the questions then read the responses you get, you can then make informed choices.
To answer some of your questions I will use my experience, please bear in mind others may provide something different.
My first appointment with the nurse consisted of being weighed, blood pressure taken, diet advice given, offered an appointment to attend a diabetic information course, referral for eye screening, medication if appropriate will be discussed
The eye screening is to look for changes to your eyes that can only be detected by having special photographs taken, it doesn’t take long but can be a little uncomfortable for a few hours
Your feet are checked for signs of damage, blisters or sores that aren’t healing and a sensitivity test, they are checking for loss of sensation which could indicate nerve damage
Blood glucose monitoring will more than likely be glossed over if you are type 2, I chose to ignore this advice and purchased a monitor @Bluetit1802 has some very useful links hopefully she will see this post and pop up with help on this
@daisy1 will also send you the information that all new members here are given, it’s full of useful information
As already mentioned many of us use mySugr it’s a great app that you record your BG levels into and can give a pretty good estimation of your HBA1C level
Hopefully some of your initial questions have been answered, please keep asking, we are all willing to help, motivate and support you, you are not alone here, good luck
Hi Jayney
I have downloaded the "my sugar app" and will start using that to input my data.
My doctor has prescribed me metaforim 500mg at breakfast and then to increase the dose, I don't know when I'm meant to increase it but will ask the nurse on Wednesday.
If I'm offered a course about diabetes then I will definitely take it. I've done quite a bit of reading and it can all be overwhelming. It's difficult excepting that this is a life long condition and I am hoping I can reverse it (I don't know if I'm kidding myself thinking this) but will try my best. I'm feeling sick quite a lot and haven't started my medication yet, I start them tomorrow when I'm off work to see how I handle them. Hopefully I should be ok.
I think everything will become a lot clearer when I've had my appointment with the nurse on Wednesday. I will also have an idea of what clinics I will need to attend and how often.
Thanks again for your support.
 
Unfortunately the course I did about diabetes was all about picking the right carbs to eat - and was very dispiriting to see the people there, some very ill, being told that baked beans and baked potatoes were good choices.
 
I think I may have already given the meter info on another thread for @Marcus1234 but here it is again in case I haven't.

The most popular meters for self funding T2's are the Codefree and the Tee2 because the strips are much cheaper than other meters, and you need a lot of strips. You can't buy them in pharmacies.

Try here for the Codefree meter
http://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/blood-glucose-monitor/

and here for the extra strips
http://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/sd-codefree-test-strips-to-be-used-only-with-the-sd-monitor/

There are discount codes if you buy in bulk. (applied at the check out stage)
5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833

The Tee2 is here and the meter is free.

http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product-category/shop/tee2/

Don’t forget to check the box that you have diabetes so you can buy VAT free. (for either meter)
Thanks Bluetit, yes you did share the link with me on a previous post. My apologies my head is all over at the moment.
 
I have never suffered with spots etc, but for the last year or so I have found my skin is beautifully soft and supple, which I think is down to the LCHF diet.
The drug often given to type two diabetics, Metformin, can cause loss of appetite amongst other things.
Type two diabetics can suffer from liver problems due to a fatty liver, but high cholesterol can result from losing weight, as the molecules are used to move fat around in the bloodstream.
Thank you
 
Hi Jayney
I have downloaded the "my sugar app" and will start using that to input my data.
My doctor has prescribed me metaforim 500mg at breakfast and then to increase the dose, I don't know when I'm meant to increase it but will ask the nurse on Wednesday.
If I'm offered a course about diabetes then I will definitely take it. I've done quite a bit of reading and it can all be overwhelming. It's difficult excepting that this is a life long condition and I am hoping I can reverse it (I don't know if I'm kidding myself thinking this) but will try my best. I'm feeling sick quite a lot and haven't started my medication yet, I start them tomorrow when I'm off work to see how I handle them. Hopefully I should be ok.
I think everything will become a lot clearer when I've had my appointment with the nurse on Wednesday. I will also have an idea of what clinics I will need to attend and how often.
Thanks again for your support.
Hi Marcus, yes it is overwhelming at first, you need time to come to terms with the diagnosis, I felt like I needed to almost go through a grieving process.
However please don’t loose heart, you can and will come to terms with this, yes it requires a change of lifestyle and more thought needs to go into meal planning, but, it’s worth it. I wasn’t prescribed medication, there are lots of people on here who were so seek them out if you need support with this area.
Can you reverse this? In my opinion yes you can, I was diagnosed in Oct last year, in Feb I had my first check up and my BG was down to pre diabetic numbers, I have recently had my second check up and they are in the normal range. Myself and many here refer to this as being in remission, there is unfortunately no cure but so long as we maintain a good diet we can hopefully stay that way long term, I hope indefinitely. I have also lost over 4 stone and have more energy as a result plus this seems to be a bonus of not being full of carbs, my skin has changed dramatically, I think you asked about oily skin? I haven’t experienced that and the occasional oiliness I used to get is gone, my skin is clearer and brighter than it’s been in years, that’s got to be celebrated surely? Diet wise I don’t think I could go back to eating all the carb heavy things I used to eat, awareness of how food affects your body is very empowering and your taste buds quickly change. I have found suitable replacements for things like rice and bread. I enjoy things that I never liked before, again due to the change in taste buds I think.
Of course I would prefer not to have been diagnosed as diabetic but and it’s a big but, I’m now thankful for it, it has given me a chance to improve my health and it was the kick up the *** I needed to loose weight.
You may find when you go to your appointment that you are not told about LCHF diet as a way of bringing down your numbers, I wasn’t, thankfully I found this site and saw the success stories and this way of eating made sense to me so I gave it a try, the rest as they say is history.
Lengthy post, I’m sorry, hopefully it has given you a bit more of an insight into what can be achieved and what to expect? Shout out if you need anything, I’m happy to help if I can, let me know how things go at the clinic and the very best of luck with everything.
 
I have never suffered with spots etc, but for the last year or so I have found my skin is beautifully soft and supple, which I think is down to the LCHF diet.
The drug often given to type two diabetics, Metformin, can cause loss of appetite amongst other things.
Type two diabetics can suffer from liver problems due to a fatty liver, but high cholesterol can result from losing weight, as the molecules are used to move fat around in the bloodstream.
I agree with you about the changes to skin my skin is amazing now, clear, bright and the little bit of what was thought to be Rosacia across my cheeks is gone.
 
@Marcus1234

Hello Marcus and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
@Marcus1234

Hello Marcus and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
Thanks daisy1.

This information is very useful and cover's a lot of information Ive been looking for.

Thanks again.
 
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