T2 and T1, while both being part of the diabetes family, are fundamentally different diseases with different aetiologies. . Withing the UK (at the very least) a T2 diagnosis itself can cover a whole range of different variations of disease type, age, progression etc etc.Similarly a T1 diagnosis can cover differing situations ( primary early onset T1, Lada etc) Then of course theres always T3c, reactive hypoglyceamia etc to factor in with their individual aetiologies and treatment needs
While generic diatary advice may hold some relevance To all forms of diabetes at some point in the diseases’ progression, there is no dietary advice that will cover all types at all points, let alone each individual
It's a matter of life or death, you can't sugar coat it. It is that important.
I am NOT suggesting we stop posting dietary advice. I am suggesting we find out any details we need, that might influence that dietary advice, before going further, and offer support while we find this out.
Some posters clearly put that they want any advice, and their type and medication. Some dont, and I think we need to backtrack a bit and hold off the deluge of advice and experience until we are on sure ground.
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Verbally patting people on the head and declaring 'there there' helps nobody.
Yes it does, it helps them become less frightened, to know they are not alone, reducing stress and therefore reducing blood sugars.
Support can be as valuable, in the initial stages of contact, as dietary advice. Then the posters know we are helpful, supportive people and may be more open to dietary changes and medicine considerations (statins?) than they would be if they post once or twice and get told they must stop most of the food they eat, against the advice of the HCP's. Why would they trust us if they havent got to know us? we may just sound like some extremist nutters off the internet. We know what we do works, but they dont, and their HCP's will be telling them the opposite.
Stepping back for a post or two does not harm for most newbies. Its different if someone is showing signs of type 1, but that is a medical emergency anyway, and we should only be telling them to get medical help in that situation.
If someone doesn't like what's posted on here then I have one piece of advice make sure that you don't post like it yourself. IMO We can only be responsible for what we post. So if someone thinks that the newly diagnosed needs to be comforted and supported then that's what they should be doing. If yours is the only post that is written that way and that is what the new person needs then your post will be the most valuable to that poster. @Pinkorchid ? I think stuck their neck out and supported a new poster only the other day, which was against the flow of 'testing advice'. Pinkorchid was spot on and that post was what was needed i.e. the poster wasn't in a place where testing was what they wanted to do. They simply couldn't cope with the idea of testing their bloods. It is hard to post about a different approach but if you feel strongly then do it because you post might be just the approach that the new person is needing.
I know that people have posted before that if someone wants more info then they can search for it. It's not the most user friendly forum to search for information on. I've found out that when I've tried to search for specific info. As a new person I didn't want to be asking questions. So for me being given advice on diet and testing right from the start worked. i.e. people generously gave it to me without me having to ask or search for it. Lazy or what!Actually I was very low and I needed the help. I needed hope and something to focus on was given it.
BTW because of posts like yours I rarely post anything to newcomers to this forum. So people like you have silenced me (does that make you feel good?). I do sometimes read some of the posts or if I notice someone who has posted and no one has replied or they have what I think of as tricky diagnosis I report their posts to the mods for them to respond.
I am not aware that I am trying to stop anyone posting anything. I am expressing my view. You are expressing your view. I may be misunderstanding you, but the post I have quoted feels to me like you are telling me to shut up.Like I suggested Lucy, you stick to what you think is right and let others do what they think is right.
Had someone verbally patronised me when I first joined, I would have ripped their heads from their shoulders (metaphorically speaking of course).
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