You cannot assume that everyone else is the same as you / is in the same mindset / with the same needs etc etc even if they have the same diagnosis. Self referrential advice will only ever sometimes be appropriateIt's called advice, nobody has to follow it. This is a forum, the nature of forums is that everybody will post what they want within the rules and the onus is on the reader.
I wasn't confused, dazed, alone and worried when I came here, I was fired up, excited and raring to take control and within 24 hours, I did. Back then, low carbers would die of scurvy and malnutrition to name but a few, the advice given by some has now proved to be not only based on dogma but dangerous.
Verbally patting people on the head and declaring 'there there' helps nobody.
I completely agree with your last paragraph. It has affected me like that, too - but to the point when I don't post much at all any more. This forum used to be my 'safe place' where everyone pulled together but, sadly, that is no longer the case.
Damned if I do, damned if i dont. No, I dont feel good about any of this and I am surprised by the nastiness of some of the responses to such a thread.
Just forget I said anything. Mods, please delete my profile, I've had enough.
You've started a good topic for discussion. Opinions are like... Everyone has one, hey! Don't take it to heart.
Presumably though, if youd just been given the advice to test and followed it for a week , you'd have very soon seen the flaws in the HCP advice by your BG results so would have been back for further advice - some people need to hear test and assimilate advice / info step by step in order to see whether / where it is relevant to them and their situationIt is a good topic for discussion but it's a very 'hard' topic and it will cause people to react emotionally.
I needed the advice on testing and diet right from the start. If I hadn't got that from here and I'd have followed the advice given me by my HCP's I'd have been in a dreadful place.
If I come on here and read someone saying that I shouldn't have been given that help on this forum I am going to react emotionally and passionately.
As a first time poster if I'd have just got there, there don't worry or welcome to the forum and there, there don't worry have a hug. I would not have come back. BUT for others that might be just what they need.
I am not aware that I am trying to stop anyone posting anything. I am expressing my view. You are expressing your view. I may be misunderstanding you, but the post I have quoted feels to me like you are telling me to shut up.
Damned if I do, damned if i dont. No, I dont feel good about any of this and I am surprised by the nastiness of some of the responses to such a thread.
Just forget I said anything. Mods, please delete my profile, I've had enough.
That's the nature of posts though isn't it Lucy, which is why we have to take responsibilty over what we read as much as what we write and how it interprets. Forums are fiery things, full of disagreements and all sorts of opinions which we as adults, should discuss.
Well, good for you! But when I first came here. both myself and my daughter had just been diagnosed with type 1. Nobody else in my family has diabetes. I'd got members left, right and centre telling me that I needed to stop eating carbs, carbs were very bad for us, carbs were going to kill us etc etc. It was TERRIFYING! Luckily, I'm a strong minded woman and completely ignored everyone and found my own way and my girl found her way to deal with this disease. A few pats on the head saying there, there was what got us through!
There is also a very implicit power differential between a newly diagnosed poster / longer diagnosed but struggling poster and a longer established member claimimg to have etablished good control by whatever means - the experience of established members discussing and expressing their opinions / airing their disagreements is very diffetrent from that of a newbie observing it, as are the needs being addressedThat's the nature of posts though isn't it Lucy, which is why we have to take responsibilty over what we read as much as what we write and how it interprets. Forums are fiery things, full of disagreements and all sorts of opinions which we as adults, should discuss.
I spent the best part of my working life in a job where we were there to provide information - now "it's in my blood", and what I try to carry on doing to the best of my ability. If there are going to be critcisms regarding people believing that they should be offering information or advice on the forum, I'll stop wasting my time. If people feel it important to provide moral support, then they should do so, but members can only offer what they feel best able to. IMO that's what forums are about.
Robbity
Thank you Mods for your help.
There are initial posts where posters reply saying they were able to control their diet through carb counting. Gentle posts, where they state their type of diabetes, page Daisy 1, and recommend testing as an initial thing to try, while offering support and understanding.
The ones i am talking about start from saying you must test or you wont know what is what, and must stop all of the basic staple starches the person is eating.
I am trying to promote the idea of using the gently approach first, like in Daisy 1's post, where she suggests, offers ideas but doesnt lay down the law.
As we know, there are many types of diabetes and treatments people are using. One size (ditch the carbs) doesnt fit all and may be dangerous for some with certain health conditions or medications.
So, despite the polarisation I feel is being introduced on this thread, I am, and have in my first post, asked for a middle ground of offering choices to think about without a black and white approach, and getting to know the person and their type and circumstances and medication in the first response or two. Until then, we dont even know what dietary advice would be appropriate.
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